'diet aid of questionable value'...does it work???

[busybee]

Hey guys im new to the board.
I was just wondering if any of you had tried 'diet aid of questionable value'...and does it work?
Here's the link...

http://www.gynecomastiacure.info/

I ordered a bottle and ive been taking it for a few days...i was wondering if i should buy more or if this is a sham.

Thanks for your help!

[Achilles]

Most likely a sham, but if you see results, let us know!

[Hypo-is-here]

It claims to reduce fat cells.

As far as I am aware there is nothing in the world than can spot/localize fat reduction.

I guess I am wrong

They also claim that their product reduces glandular mass and even reduces the excess skin in the breast area.

Quite some feat

How does it know which skin to reduce and by how much to reduce it?

It must be magical.

Given it seems to reduce everything in the breast area I guess it is lucky it doesn't reduce your nipples and muscle till they are gone as well.

Jumping into the real world for a moment...

This product has been through no medical studies/trials at all- NIL.

The company selling it claim that it has zero side effects because it is natural.

Alcohol and opium are natural, caffeine is natural

They really are talking out of there proverbial here.

How can you reduce glandular mass without affecting that tissue on an endocrine level and if you affect it on an endocrine level how can there be no side effects?

All very funny.

Here is a quote from them;

has been reported to show significant breast reduction, up to 30%. 'diet aid of questionable value' results are guaranteed.
Unquote

Reported by whom?  

In what environment and by how many people?  

What percentage of people that had positive results?  

The results are guaranteed, so I presume it must have a 100% success rate in which case it is the holy grail and has just toppled every other medical treatment that has been tried in the last 20 years including Clomiphene Citrate, Tamoxifen, Dihydrotestosterone etc  

I presume this is going to be taken up by endocrinologists across the world and gynoplasty surgeons are going to be out of business?  

If this is the case why are they trying to peddle it on some duff website and not marketing there major find to the medical community?  

Oops a whopping great logical hole appears.

They have an FAQ page and they answer there own tidy little questions apart from one obvious question that would be worth knowing the answer to;

This is from there own website quote
What are the ingredients of 'diet aid of questionable value' breast reduction?
Unquote

Unfortunately they didn't write an answer

Maybe they do not even know

I suggest we all send them emails asking why they are trying to cash in on other peoples misery like little money grabbing charlatan barstewards....just an idea.

P.S

By the way I have some liquid from a chemistry set that dates back to 1982 that will resolve gynecomastia in 100% of cases if anyone is interested just leave 10 bucks behind the old gas works on the outskirts of town and you can have your fill.

I guarantee that my sulphuric acid will do the job and just melt that breast tissue away.

Side effects are guaranteed.

A bit like this website I’ll royally screw you, but at least I am up front.

Any takers?

No.  Arrr I am surprised  

How about we just flood that A Holes email address with spam then

[Hypo-is-here]

I have just sent them this email.

Why are you trying to get rich on other peoples misery?

This product that you claim reduces gynecomastia does no such thing.

You should be utterly ashamed of your actions.

Not only is there no product in the world that can localize fat lose, but in order to reduce glandular gynecomastia it is imperitive that the endocrine balance is shifted in favour of androgens and any product that can do this has side effects.

If your product has no side effects then it is because it does not affect the endocrine balance and if it does not do this it cannot reduce galandular gynecomastia.

You make claims about your product but the fact is it has been through ZERO controlled medical trials- NIL.

You make guarantees on your website that you are simply not in a position to make.

If your product did as you claim (something it blatently does not) then why are you pushing it on a duff little website.

If your claims were remotely credible you would be able to market this to endocrinologists and the medical community and a far greater and more profitable market.

Like I say you should be ashamed.

You know that people are desperate and so you play on there hopes and fear so that  you can sucker them in and make money off of them.

Smoke mirrors and a modern P.T Barnum

There is a sucker born every minute and that is your customer.


SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hypo-is-here]

Let's hope they don't take the facts in your email to craft a more believable lie.  Worst case scenario they start lying about patents, coming up with phoney side effects, fixing spelling errors on their website, etc.  As it is, the sheer ridiculousness of their operation is enough of a warning to stay away; if they get rid of these flaws more people may be tricked into buying into this product.

I may have told them enough to know they are patently selling snake oil, but I have not told them very much at all that would enable them to market there filth any better

what if this reduces my....  
I wait for the surgery, gyne has already f**** my life so i dont worry.

They are banking on your hopes and fears so they can sucker you in.

If you pay them they have won, they will have bled another person and made themsleves that bit richer at our collective expense

[Grandpa Bambu]

busybee.....

'diet aid of questionable value' is a scam! Plain and simple....

Dewd..... I find it very odd that every time someone starts a thread on 'diet aid of questionable value', the thread creator has only one post to his credit.  

You should have seen the 'diet aid of questionable value' Website 8 months ago. It made me LOL! So many spelling errors, so many gramatical errors. Very unprofessional to say the least.

Here are a couple of my previous posts regarding 'diet aid of questionable value'....


October 20, 2005

Troops...

Yeah, these pills may reduce Gynecomastia, although I highly doubt it. The 'diet aid of questionable value' webpage states that "'diet aid of questionable value' has been reported to show significant breast reduction, up to 30%". Now I ask you.... how many Gynecomastia sufferers would want only a 30% reduction? The Site also states that you can "Take your shirt off at the beach". If you still have 70% of your Gyne, wouldn't you still be embarrassed to take your shirt off in public?

The following is a paragraph from the Site...

'The Alternative to Painful Male Breast Reduction

The Alternative being a more natural and gentler way is to use "'diet aid of questionable value'" Natural Male Breast Reduction Pills" that will target and reduce the fatty deposits, glandular tissue of the breast and surrounding skin and areola. The areola being the the darker skin around the nipple, giving the breast a more firmer, smaller appearance and the teen or man more self confidence in her appearance and the strength to carry on day to day activities without fear of ridicule or fatigue'.

Geeze, that last bit 'giving the breast a more firmer, smaller appearance and the teen or man more self confidence in her appearance and the strength to carry on day to day activities without fear of ridicule or fatique' sounds like it was meant for a woman with unusually large breasts! When was the last time you heard of a Gyne sufferer that was 'fatiqued' as a result of Gyne?             'Her appearance'? Geeze, I thought Gynecomastia was a male 'only' condition  .

Hahahaha check this out....  this is from Page two...

'Will one breast reduce at a faster rate than the other?
'diet aid of questionable value' breast reduction results are uniform. The reduction process is equal in both the right and left breast. The beauty of 'diet aid of questionable value' results are that you will NOT get scarring, there will be NO loss of the ability to breast feed, as so many women find occurs after breast reduction surgery.'

OMG! How many of us Gyne sufferers are planning on 'Breast Feeding'?  Hehe....    

Spelling mistakes, grammatical mistakes, gender mistakes and scare tatics make this Site and its product look and smell like Bullshyte!!!

I saw this Site a few months back and it had a major boo-boo. I mentioned the mistake here at Gyne.org and all of a sudden the mistake was changed. Geeze, you would think that they would proof read the entire Site and correct the rest of the mistakes huh?

Obviously this Site is a spill-over from a female breast reduction Site trying to capitalize on the anguish of us Gyne sufferers.

All I can say is..... Buyer Beware!

There is no law that can protect you from someone selling you something that didn't do what it was caimed to do. Geeze, they could be selling you sugar pills and there is absolutely nothing 'legally' you can do about it!!!  Like I said... Buyer Beware!

John.



November 05, 2005.

Guys....

The last paragraph on Page two of the 'diet aid of questionable value' Site states....


'Will one breast reduce at a faster rate than the other?
'diet aid of questionable value' breast reduction results are uniform. The reduction process is equal in both the right and left breast. The beauty of 'diet aid of questionable value' results are that you will NOT get scarring, there will be NO loss of the ability to breast feed, as so many women find occurs after breast reduction surgery.'


How many of you guys are planning to breast feed?  Bwwaaaahhhaaaaaa!!!  

What a joke that Site is! You would think that the authors of the Site would have enough intelligence to remove all references of the female persuasion. Obviously this is a copy of a similar Site that sells 'diet aid of questionable value' for female breast reduction....

Have a good one!

John.



And.....


For those of you who are gullable enough to try 'diet aid of questionable value' and find that you have been ripped off , here is the info you need to get retribution.


(From a post by 'Webster'  July 03, 2005.....)

Why is there no address / telephone for the organisation? I'd never buy anything from the web without that. The ingredients they list in the pills are what you could buy in any health store for peanuts.

If anybody wants to know who is behind 'diet aid of questionable value' when they find they have been ripped off then 'diet aid of questionable value' website is registered to Rodney Scott, 309 hillcrest avenue, NANAIMO, BC.

(This is off WHOIS  database)

Domain IDCheesy10274021-LRMS
Domain Name:GYNECOMASTIA-CURE.INFO
Created On:23-May-2005 02:14:03 UTC
Last Updated On:23-May-2005 03:56:07 UTC
Expiration Date:23-May-2006 02:14:03 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R126-LRMS
Status:ACTIVE
StatusShockedK
Registrant ID:C10040991-LRMS
Registrant Name:rodney scott
Registrant Organization:'diet aid of questionable value'
Registrant Street1:#4 309 hillcrest avenue
Registrant City:NANAIMO
Registrant State/Province:BC
Registrant Postal Code:v9r3l7
Registrant Country:CA
Registrant Email:admin@freenakedboard.com

Or.....

W. Bagg & Associates
P.O. Box 23
Station A. Nanaimo, BC
Canada V9R 5K4


As I mentioned above,  Buyer Beware !!!    

John.

[Grandpa Bambu]

They have an FAQ page and they answer there own tidy little questions apart from one obvious question that would be worth knowing the answer to;

This is from there own website quote
What are the ingredients of 'diet aid of questionable value' breast reduction?
Unquote

Unfortunately they didn't write an answer

Maybe they do not even know

Hypo....

Here are the 'diet aid of questionable value' ingredients:

   *  Zhi Shi - Fructus Immaturus Citri Aurantii 10 %
   * He Ye - Folium Nelumbinis Nuciferae 10%
   * Wang Bu Liu Xing - Semen Vaccariae Segetalis 10%
   * Green Tea - Camellia Sinensis 20%
   * Chai Hu - Radix Bupleuri 10%
   * Ban Xia - Rhizoma Pinelliae Ternatae 10%
   * Qing Pi - Pericarpium Citri Reticulae Viride 10%
   * Ginger - Rhizoma Zingiberis Officinalis10%
   * Bai Zhu - Rhizoma Atractylodis Macrocephalae 10%


More Info About The Ingredients

Pinyin Name: Zhi Shi
Original Source: Shen Nong Ben Cao Jing (Divine Husbandman’s Classic of the Materia Medica) second century
English Name: bitter orange
Pharmaceutical Name: Fructus Aurantii Immaturus
Properties: bitter, acrid, cool
Channels Entered: Large Intestine, Spleen, Stomach

Fructus Aurantii Immaturus is one of the most potent qi-regulating herbs and is a potent diuretic. This herb supports the reduction of lipid on any area of the body including breast adipose. It does this by increasing the flow of energy or qi which optimizes metabolic processes allowing the body to access stored lipid as fuel.

Pinyin Name: He Ye
Original Source: Shi Liao Ben Cao (Materia Medica of Diet Therapy) Meng Shan in the seventh Century
English Name: lotus leaf
Pharmaceutical Name: Folium Nelumbinis
Properties: bitter, astringent, neutral
Channels Entered: Heart, Liver, and Spleen

Folium Neluminis is cooked with Yi Yi Ren (Semen Coicis) and drank as a tea in China to control obesity. It is also a primary herb it treat dampness and clear heat. Excess weight is often the consequence of dampness and heat which in turn can be caused by overconsumsion

Pinyin Name: Wang Bu Liu Xing
Original Source: Shen Nong Ben Cao Jing (Divine Husbandman’s Classic of the Materia Medica) second century
English Name: vaccaria seed
Pharmaceutical Name: Semen Vaccariae
Properties: bitter, neutral
Channels Entered: Liver, Stomach

Semen Vaccariae is commonly used to treat breast disorders. It has a dispersing function and a draining action to treat abscesses and swelling of the breasts. This herb promotes blood circulation to open blockages in the channels and collaterals.

Pinyin Name: Lu Cha
English Name: green tea
Pharmaceutical Name: Folium Camellia Sinensis
Properties: Bitter, cold
Channels Entered: Stomach

Camellia Sinensis is taken as a beverage or with food to remove excess fat or oil for slimming purposes. It helps to dispel accumulation of dampness. In a clinical study, consumption of Lu Cha was associated with a decrease in total cholesterol level but had no decrease in triglycerides or HDL.

Pinyin Name: Chai Hu
Original Source: Shen Nong Ben Cao Jing (Divine Husbandman’s Classic of the Materia Medica) second century
English Name: bupleurum
Pharmaceutical Name: Radix Bupleuri
Properties: bitter, acrid, cool
Channels Entered: Liver, Gallbladder

Chai Hu is used in this formula to harmonize the exterior and the interior and is a key herb in resolving a number of conditions and symptoms, such as fullness and distention of the chest, irritability, nausea and vertigo, poor appetite, fever and chills, dry throat and general pathogenic protection.

Pinyin Name: Ban Xia (processed)
Original Source: Shen Nong Ben Cao Jing (Divine Husbandman’s Classic of the Materia Medica) second century
English Name: pinellia
Pharmaceutical Name: Rhizoma Pinelliae
Properties: acrid, warm
Channels Entered: Spleen, Stomach, Lung

Ban Xia is used to address the syndromes (Dampness and Phlegm accumulation). Ban Xia dissolves phlegm and dissipated nodules to treat swelling. It is combined in this formula with Ginger to neutralize its slightly toxic nature.

Pinyin Name: Qing Pi
Original Source: tu Jing Ben Cao (Illustrated Classic of the Materia Medica) by Su Song in 1061
English Name: green tangerine peel
Properties: bitter, acrid, warm
Channels Entered: Liver, Gallbladder, Stomach

Green tangerine peel spreads Liver Qi and Breaks Up Qi Stagnation. Liver qi stagnation includes hypochondriac distention and pain, breast distention and pain, breast nodules, and hernia. There may also be emotional distress, frequent sighing, irritability, and irregular menstruation.

Pinyin Name: Gan Jiang
Original Source: Shen Nong Ben Cao Jing (Divine Husbandman’s Classic of the Materia Medica) second century
English Name: dried ginger
Pharmaceutical Name: Rhizoma Zingiberis
Properties: acrid, hot
Channels Entered: Heart, Lung, Spleen, Stomach

Rhizoma Zingiberis has the therapeutic action of warming the middle (San Jiao) and is frequently used to neutralize any toxic effects of other herbs in a formulation. Its warming action aids the body’s thermal regulation capacity and metabolic abilities.

Pinyin Name: Bai Zhu
Original Source: Shen Nong Ben Cao JIng (Divine Husbandman’s Classic of the Materia Medica) second century
English Name: Atractylodes rhizome
Pharmaceutical Name: Rhizoma Atractylodis Macrocephalae
Properties: bitter, sweet, warm
Channels Entered: Spleen, Stomach

Rhizoma Atractylodis Macrocephalae Tonifies Qi, and Strengthens Spleen to enhance transformation and transportation functions. Clinically, it treats disorders characterized by qi deficiency of the Spleen and Stomach, such as shortness of breath, fatigue, sallow facial appearance, decreased food intake, loose stools, and diarrhea. It also dries dampness and eliminates water accumulation.


John.

[Grandpa Bambu]

You will notice that on the 'Testimonials' Page, all the entries are regarding women's breast reduction. I realize that a 'breast' is a 'breast', however, I'm sure that a potential 'male' purchaser of ''diet aid of questionable value'' would want to read about how the product has helped other Gynecomastia sufferers and not how some big breasted women reduced the size of their boobs.

This ''diet aid of questionable value'' may work, for women cliental. Some of the ingredients makes the product sound like a weight-loss aid. Of course the breasts will be 'smaller' after substantial weight-loss. Possibly 30%.... does this sound familiar at all?  

Anways, as I mentioned before, the peddlers of 'diet aid of questionable value' promise up to a 30% reduction in breast size. The Site also states: 'Men now you can take your shirt off at the beach'. What Gynecomastia sufferer who is too embarrassed to remove his shirt at the beach will do so with only a reduction of 30%? Gyne sufferers want their gynecomastia removed and not a 'reduction' of 'up to' 30%.

I truly do not think ''diet aid of questionable value'' will provide the results that the Gynecomastic sufferer is looking for. Guys, please do not waste yours or your parents hard earned coin on this stuff!!!

I did a search on Ebay for ''diet aid of questionable value' Breast Reduction' and nothing was found. If this stuff was legit, they would be peddling it on Ebay to reach a much larger demographic.

BTW.... here is the link to the 'diet aid of questionable value' female breast reduction Site. They modeled their 'male breast reduction' Site after it.

John.

[Grandpa Bambu]

Hey guys im new to the board.

I was just wondering if any of you had tried 'diet aid of questionable value'...and does it work? I ordered a bottle and ive been taking it for a few days...i was wondering if i should buy more or if this is a sham.

Thanks for your help!

busybee....

Dewd..... I've got an idea, since you have already purchased a bottle of 'diet aid of questionable value', you can be the 'one' to put 'diet aid of questionable value' to the test. Purchase a 6 month supply (as the Site suggests) and document your findings. Take 'Before', 'During' and 'After' pics. . Take pics once a week. Frontal, RHS and LHS shots will be good. I realize a 'Before' pic may not be possible as you have already started taking the product. But hey, it's not too late. It has only been a few days.... start taking pics now.

Good idea, yes?  Wadaya say Dewd?

John.

[Hypo-is-here]

Top quality posts John

Brilliant stuff.

The fact is there is no way in a million years that those ingredients would have a greater impact on gynecomastia than zinc supplementation.

Zinc has direct areas within the androgen receptor protein.  Zinc has a real influence on the Androgen receptor and the aromatase process.

Green tea does...erm that's right nothing :-/

But again John fantastic posts you have exposed a lot of the crap they are trying to peddle.  I love the fact you got there address for complaints as well

[Grandpa Bambu]

busybee....

Dewd..... I've got an idea, since you have already purchased a bottle of 'diet aid of questionable value', you can be the 'one' to put 'diet aid of questionable value' to the test. Purchase a 6 month supply (as the Site suggests) and document your findings. Take 'Before', 'During' and 'After' pics. . Take pics once a week. Frontal, RHS and LHS shots will be good. I realize a 'Before' pic may not be possible as you have already started taking the product. But hey, it's not too late. It has only been a few days.... start taking pics now.

Good idea, yes?  Wadaya say Dewd?

John.

Yeah.... I didn't think so!  

It's been almost a month now with no reply. Obviously 'busybee' is one of the guys peddling 'diet aid of questionable value'....  

John.