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[ForexFreak]

I am about 1.5 months post op and my left side when i flex like goes in a lil... is that a concavity?!?!! cuz my right side doesnt do that .. and yeah it's a bit wierd

[BigLouJr]

That is because you probably do not have large muscle mass in that area. All you have to do is increase muscle size in that region to fill that area. Start working out heavy.

[ForexFreak]

sounds like a plan big !!!!

That is because you probably do not have large muscle mass in that area. All you have to do is increase muscle size in that region to fill that area. Start working out heavy.

[BigLouJr]

You don't have any more glands so do not be affraid to put some real juice in the system. They ain't coming back.

[BigLouJr]

Not with the proper precautions. Out of the whole world, only 5 countries ban steroids. What does that tell you? How many countries are in the whole world? How many cases of gynecomastia? Cases of gynecomastia is greater in the US, yet medicines that causes and combat this condition are forbidden here. In other countries where these medicines are over the counter along with tamoxifen, cases of gynecomastia are lower. Someone needs to do a study on this.

Our government is the main leading combatant in this. First, by banning all hormones and teaching very little about them, causes people to abuse them which causes gynecomastia and are not able to prevent it by the usage of the proper available medicine and medical overseeing. If it was legal, most people would be able to freely inquire with their physician, get the correct dossage and administer the proper balance that will never cause gynecomastia.

I mean, at the end, steroids are legal medicines to treat anemia in the USA. Go to www.walgreens.com or www.cvs.com, check out the pharmacy section and see the prices. Funny how inflated the prices are, the same medicine accross the border costs 10% of what it costs here in the all good US. Do you know what it is? More profits for pharmaceutical companies. For example, HGH is listed at over $3000, yet, it is only $50 USD in Mexico from the same company and it is not even steroids. Lipitor, a medicine to lower cholesterol, in the US it goes for about $125 for a 30 day supply, in Mexico the same drug from the same company it is only $52 USD. Why? The richer gets richer. They do not care if you can afford to lower your own cholesterol, all they want is more money.

Let's try not to be or make it seem as all of us here are morally perfect. How many of you taken any medicine that was not prescribed to you? How many of you smoked marijuana (which is not even an acceptable medicine with the majority)? Is it illegal to use a medicine when is over the counter and legal within your jurisdiction. If I was to move to Mexico for 3 months and use steroids or any ther medicine that is not controlled, does that make me morally wrong because they are banned in the US. I do not think so.

It's like needles. I am not a drug user; however, I do see a problem with the government controlling the sale of syringes. The usage of dirty syringes causes higher chances of transmittance of infectious diseases, so the government decides to ban them. Helloo!!!! Do you think that drug users are just going to stop their addiction. If they wanted to lower percentage of transmittance of high risk infectious diseases, they would allow free flow of syringes. Then they will be no persons sharing dirty needles thus reducing the risks associated with sharing such dirty needles. Maybe even aids would be lower.


The government believes that by banning certain things it creates and overall closure to the issue at risk, which is totally false. Just like this site, you can write about anything, you can call someone something, you can write stupid post like self-surgery, you can pretty much post anything short of obscenities and the moderator would not ban or remove your post. If it gets to stupid, like self-surgery, they might just lock the post but not remove it. Yet, if you talk about how certain surgeons use this site to promote their own business or enterprise, which is wrong, the moderator would disappear your posting. For example, a certain surgeon is always listing how he does over 200 surgeries a year. Obviously, he does this to show how experience he or she is. But if you are half smart, you would realize that at 7000 each and with over 200 a year, it totals over 1,400,000.00 yearly. Does he or she really need to post here with every other comment refering to his style or how he does the surgeries. I do not mine MD's posting on this site to answer a few questions which would show their commitment to really help the ease for those suffering from this condition. But I do not appreciate the self advrtisement and banning by moderators when trying to make a point about it.

In conclusion, if doctors are allow and encourage to use this site to advertise, we should be able to talk and advertise anything also. They are not better than us, we are the ones suffering with this condition and not them, hence the name gynecomastia.org. So every time that an MD comes here to advertise, let's give them the proper salute, go some where else. If they want to answer a certain questions, limit the answer to that. I am really sick of hearing about the dynamic style. I think that everyone on this site remembers this site when ever you hear dynamic anywhere.

When this site started back in 2002 I believe, you did not have that many advertisement from MD's, but it has increased to dynamic levels.

[ForexFreak]

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That is because you probably do not have large muscle mass in that area. All you have to do is increase muscle size in that region to fill that area. Start working out heavy.

Doubtful.  What the OP has is likely caused by what bonded to what during healing.  Working out is always good advice, but in this case it may or may not address his issue.

You don't have any more glands so do not be affraid to put some real juice in the system. They ain't coming back.

This is incorrect.  Gyne redcution surgery will not prevent recurrence.  He still has SOME gland; no PS can/will remove 100% of the gland. 

I hope you don't mean what I think you mean by 'real juice.'  If so, then you need to stop posting. 

Gland will come back if you give it a reason to come back.  Do yourself a favor and stay off the juice, or you'll be back to where you started pre-op.

but FBI doesnt like 90% of the world of men basically have gland to some degree.. thats what my doctor told me .. he said evreyone has gland

[BigLouJr]

Steroids?? I said juice. Never did I mentioned steroids. I guess you like to assume a lot. By the way, did you know that catabolic steroids is as harmful as anabolic steroids and both require prescriptions. Yet, we do not hear so much about catabolic steroids.

[BigLouJr]

Really, you never heard of it. Well, maybe that is because cortisone is not the only catabolic steroid. You got prednisone, deflazacort, etc. and guaranteed that there is a lot of abuse since they are as addicting as anabolic steroids. Obviously, anabolic steroids are well known to the youth as compared to catabolic steroids which is well know to the older population since a lot of them rely on. But since is known that catabolic steroids does not enhance the physical appearance and the edge on competition, that is the reason why most people think that anabolic steroids is more dangerous than catabolic steroids. In reality, is the opposite.

Prednisone is known to have several strong side effects, including fluid retention (hence bloating and weight gain) which can lead to high blood pressure and the development of cataracts in the lenses of the eye. In some cases prednisone's benefits in strengthening muscle are cancelled out by obesity and inactivity. Linear growth (in height) may be arrested. There are also severe psychological side effects, such as difficulty concentrating, sleeping, and controlling emotions. Impairment in thinking, reading, and coping skills can lead to depression or aggression. Finally, long term use of immunosuppressants like prednisone can also impair the body's ability to fight infections and heal wounds.

Imagine, catabolic steroid will lead to inability to fight off diseases like aids by decreasing your immune system when anabolic steroid could lead to greater ability to fight off diseases by increasing the immune system.

All hormones, whether catabolic, anabolic, and thyroidical, are good and bad to an extent. Abusing them would lead to devasting effects, more with catabolic and thyroidical than anabolic. So with a well founded overall education, anabolic would probably create better outcomes than any other type of hormones. There is a reason they precribe it to older people on a regular basis.

[BigLouJr]

You are telling me that I am trying to sound smart and yet, you cannot tell what the point was on my argument. Break it down and get the conclusion, that is the last paragraph. Amongst all the hormones available as medicines, anabolic is the most beneficial with lesser side effects.

As of me, well, I am 30 now and I have not workout since I was 22. I did work out hard from when I was 15 to 22 and won three bodybuilding championship (one for US Armed Forces). In the early 90's was a little more different than now. My gynecomastia problems resulted from a high natural level of testosterone production, hence the history in my family of athletes.

Where are the statistics of more people abusing anabolic steroids compared to catabolic and thyroidical hormones? Where did you get those facts? You are just assuming. I can tell that you are clueless in that field.

First, the classification in 1991 of anabolic steroids in the federal statutes was implemented after high complaints of young kids abusing and gave them an edge over competition but not because of being harmful to the public. Nobody dies of an overdose of anabolic steroids but they do die of an overdose of Tylenol. So which drug is more harmful, the one that kills you within an hour or less, or the one that does nothing harmful in the short term. What's the worst side effect of anabolic steroids, gynecomastia. Everything else is temporary. If you take 20 Tyleno pills, you are dead and you don't need a prescription. How ironic.

Remember, the key word to avoid with everything is ABUSE. If you abuse your woman, she will leave you.

This site is about gynecomastia and I really do not feel like giving you a class as of why our governments acts the way they do at times, when it might not be the best for the population.