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Gynecomastia Acceptance => Acceptance => Topic started by: gotgyne on February 03, 2023, 02:07:15 PM

Title: Thread shift
Post by: gotgyne on February 03, 2023, 02:07:15 PM
It is remarkable, that the threads are shifting more and more into psychological and even spiritual dimensions. Threads like "Body image", "My breasts have turned into a kink", "Androgyny" or "Androgyny, hermaphrodotism, coincidence ..." tell it.
I like this, since it shows that we are not only on the surface any more, but moving towards the core.
John
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: taxmapper on February 03, 2023, 02:49:01 PM
Awareness of subject matter. 

opening one's eyes is more than just someone placing a rumor in your head. 

researching into what is now a form of esoteric information and concepts that were not taught in school.   

To me the "awakining" that is taking place not only with this subject but many others is starting to crash the 'system". 
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Evolver on February 03, 2023, 08:33:02 PM
I agree that the deeper discussions on this side of the forum do seem to be more prevalent nowadays, I also think for the better.

I also agree with taxmapper's take on it. I would also add, that none of it would happen if people weren't comfortable opening up. Sometimes there is some very personal stuff written, epecially about past trauma etc. and that wouldn't happen either if this wasn't such a caring place.

Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: aboywithgirls on February 04, 2023, 07:34:47 AM
Evolver, so true. I was very hesitant about coming out on this platform. I had joined as a man with significant gynecomastia. I really wanted to stay here and discuss and share ways to deal with gynecomastia.

I didn't share my secret that I was living as woman and then fully transitioned. I really love you guys and have had some very personal conversations in the personal messages. I was afraid to come out here out of fear of rejection. 

The acceptance that has been shown to this girl has been overwhelming. I also feel that it has allowed others here to open up themselves. It allows those here to look inward, beyond the gynecomastia and the bras and discover who they are.

I really do love ❤️ and appreciate all of you. 

❤️Sophie ❤️
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Johndoe1 on February 04, 2023, 09:31:44 AM
I would hope we all have evolved to the point of understanding that we may be guys but we have a trait that is very human but society deems gender specific. The truth is it doesn't matter what you have between your legs, we have glandular, mammary tissue on our chests that are part of the human reproductive system for what ever reason. We have, at least for the moment, decided to retain this mammary tissue and to maintain health, we should, need, to understand how to maintain good health of that tissue and that includes discussing it at a level that, to an outsider might seem unusual or uncomfortable. We have come to that point now and that's a good thing for our mental as well as physical health. 
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Orb on February 04, 2023, 10:01:52 AM
Diversity allows one to grow.  Experiencing a broad variety of human truths from, traveling, living in and with different cultures, an openness to try new foods... changes ones view on life and those sharing this planet with us.  we're all unique.  Culture alone doesn't define someone.  Harsh words and glares from others directed to another only show ones ingnorance. Everyone reading the acceptance portion of this forum has an openness and willingness to accept that.   Yes there is a physical difference about us and yes that includes a mental variations also.  That is the hard part to explain, or have others grasp and comprehend.

  I quite enjoy the the discussion of those here and if that view varies from mine, that's okay.  I'm open to, and will learn from, and will always accept them for it.
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Evolver on February 04, 2023, 08:44:26 PM
Those last three posts are spot on.

Yes, when someone reveals something personal about themselves, it encourages others. It helps us all feel more understanding of each other which leads to further self-acceptance, then more revelations, encouragement, understanding and on and on it goes. For me, looking inward as a result of all that was one of the greatest things to happen in my life. Seriously.

Yes, our thinking has evolved here and it is a good thing for our physical and mental health. It worked for me, and one of the reasons that I changed my username was a reflection of that.

And yes, understanding and accepting the things that we discover about each other here, might not be possible for others to grasp and comprehend, but it allows us to grow. I’ll give another example: all the discussion about 'pink brain' in a few different threads last year. To those 'normal' people who would never have a reason to visit this forum and read those posts, if they for some reason did, they would think we were a bunch of nutters! But for us, we know and understand our fundamental truths and can relate to them.
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: 42CSurprise! on February 12, 2023, 12:59:26 PM
I've been away from the board for about two and a half months... exploring life without consideration to the fact I have breasts on my chest.  My collection of brassieres was tucked away in the corner of a closet.  I threw out a few that I'd concluded didn't work well for various reasons, but kept those that really enhance my breasts when I wear them.  Folks have seen a few photos of me wearing one or another of those brassieres.  I'm wearing one at the moment... ::)

I'm happy to see this conversation.  I probably was one of the primary instigators when it comes to stepping beyond "I wear a brassiere because of comfort."  Of course, none of us wants to wear a brassiere that is uncomfortable, but breasts don't magically appear on our chests... they are the result of a hormone stew that has other affects on our bodies and minds.  Those are the things I always wanted to explore.  So we've talked about gender being on a continuum, noting that folks with elevated estrogen are quite naturally on the more feminine side of the continuum.  Women's jeans fit better for a reason.  We often develop more feminine curves.  It can also affect our brains and we often find ourselves more comfortable hanging out with women talking about life than with men talking about mixed martial arts.

As is often said here, one size does NOT fit all.  I don't need to establish my bona fides as a MAN to reassure myself there is nothing wrong with me because I not only have breasts and wear a brassiere that makes me more comfortable, but because I like my breasts and am happy to play with sexy brassieres that show them off.  I certainly don't expect everyone here to have the same relationship with their breasts or their more feminine bodies.  I am happy, however, that we talk about more than comfort when we talk about breasts and brassieres.  8)
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Evolver on February 12, 2023, 06:26:18 PM
^ Great to see you back here, old mate. :)
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Johndoe1 on February 13, 2023, 06:52:19 AM
Welcome back 42CSuprise! We missed you!
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Dudewithboobs on February 15, 2023, 12:27:54 PM
Welcome back! Hope life and new year has been great and holidays that have passed have gone well! I’d definitely say an instigator lol. As someone who used to be adamant against topics encouraged and indulged that I’d seen ya on it was you and some others who greatly helped me get out of my own ignorance and start letting loose of some of the things talked on. And as time went I found I enjoyed much of what I was against of those who “instigated” lol so thanks and welcome back great to see ya back
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: 42CSurprise! on February 15, 2023, 06:57:15 PM
We remember the old adage... "You can lead a horse to water... but you can't make him drink."  Yes, we can expand our horizons and for some of us the new perspective will change the journey we're on with the breasts developing on our chests.  Some will continue to have difficulty and will object to our new found freedom.  We've decided we don't want to mutilate our bodies but that leaves us with a multitude of questions.  It would be foolish to overlook the reality that hormones that stimulate breast growth also result in other changes to our bodies and our perspective.  I think it is worth exploring these matters and am happy that is beginning to happen on this website.

I'm just back from a hike in a nearby watershed.  I chose to wear a black brassiere during my hike.  It seems returning to my brassieres is striking my fancy.  I certainly don't try to flaunt my breasts while hiking, but I definitely enjoyed the feeling of the band around my chest and the soft cups holding my breasts.  As I've said before, when I wear a brassiere it draws attention to my breasts.  When I got home I removed the damp brassiere, toweled off my upper body and put on another brassiere.  Now I'm telling the men here about my day.  We're a rather unique group of men, sharing these out of the ordinary experiences with breasts and brassieres.  I appreciate the freedom to tell the truth without shame.  This is certainly at the heart of acceptance. 
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: aboywithgirls on February 16, 2023, 08:05:46 AM
That sounds perfectly natural to me. Just a little pro-tip from a long time bra wearer who is also very active. After a jog, a run, or any other workout, I actually wear my sports bra into the shower 🚿.  I'll take it off in the shower and I wash it with my Dove body wash, rinse it and let it air dry on a suction cup hook. The next day, it's clean and dry and ready for another run.

♥️Sophie♥️
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Dudewithboobs on February 16, 2023, 09:42:39 AM
I recently began wearing a sports bra for running cause it’s gotten to where it’s more of a need than a option for my endurance running. I’ve done this same thing and it works great and saves time in waiting for wash to load up to wash things lol. 
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: 42CSurprise! on February 16, 2023, 11:29:07 AM
Love you athletes out there running... but that isn't me.  My three mile hike took just under an hour.  Yes, I got a cardio workout because the route took me over a hill, so I had a half hour of climbing... not steep but definitely got my heart pounding and my muscles working.  I imagine if I were running I'd need a sports bra.  I can definitely jiggle my breasts in the cups of my Lilyette brassiere if I begin jumping about, so a sports bra would be necessary if I ran.

I visited a crossdressing website last evening and read a conversation with another group of men who are fixated on wearing women's clothes.  It strikes me as funny in a way.  We may enjoy talking about brassieres but our interest is predicated on the fact estrogen in our bodies has in fact pushed us to a more feminine side of the gender continuum.  We didn't ask for the estrogen and many of us have struggled mightily with the changes in our bodies.  We've resisted this development... until we finally came to acceptance of the very real breasts growing on our chests.  These men, virtually all of whom are heterosexual, long to appear as women whether they remain in the closet or are out in the world.  It was a conversation asking the question of these men whether they were in the closet or out.  Most of the men are married and most are in the closet to everyone but their wives.  MANY of those wives are very upset about what their husbands are driven to do.  I say that because there definitely a compulsive component to their behavior, so that even with their partner's disapproval, they find ways to indulge their compulsion.

I don't know, of course, whether any of these men have gynecomastia that allows them to naturally fill the cups of their brassieres.  It is definitely not something that is talked about.  Interestingly, although gender confusion is definitely at play in these conversation, it is rare for the subject of sexual orientation arising.  I know for myself that gender confusion existed alongside confusion over my sexual orientation.  Given the sexual trauma I experienced as a boy that is probably not surprising.  This is definitely very complicated territory to explore.  Thanks for hearing me out.  Once again I stir the pot... :o
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Dudewithboobs on February 16, 2023, 12:30:20 PM
A sports bra is pretty great when running. I am not nearly large as you and worry if I ever do become lol but it is good to feel secured rather than feel the movement when in a good run. And Cant make a good sauce if you don’t stir the pot lol. This forum is definitely a sauce of sorts that comes to life a bit when the pot is stirred. 
I know I used to become annoyed or frustrated at people who stirred the pot a bit on topics of dressing across the aisle as it’s often mentioned as and feeling this forum was just becoming contaminated with fetish and others alike. And then I gave some stuff a try and realized nope all the talk about just general comfort and such is pretty on point. 
Most men who cross dress have zero interest in being women full time and often are straight. I believe many do it just for the ease of male stresses. To let go in a drastic way of the male ego and persona and just enjoy the relaxing life of being feminine. Some powerlift to escape reality a bit, others work in the garage, some garden, others put on heels a dress and some eyeshadow and just enjoy the day being someone else. 
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: 42CSurprise! on February 16, 2023, 01:02:33 PM
I think you're right on about the stress releasing that comes with playing with gender non-conformity.  The crossdressing websites I've visited have a range of forums simply because these behaviors can represent different things to the folks involved... most of whom are men.  There are threads devoted to crossdressing in one forum, threads devoted to transitioning in another forum and threads devoted to non-binary expression in another forum.  So most men want to take a dive into crossdressing from time to time, with or without the participation of their partners.  A few want to make a complete transition to becoming a woman, as Sophie did some time ago.  Then a much smaller group includes men who want to present themselves without clear definition of whether they are a man or woman.  Those who want to present more fully as woman aren't interested in a full transition, but want the freedom to step out of their binary role as men.  Some of these men will do hormone replacement therapy to elevate their estrogen and suppress their testosterone... something that men here are experiencing naturally.  Funny to think about the fact our hormonal stew leads us to a more feminine presentation without our making a conscious choice to go there.  Yes, the decision to wear a brassiere, or to choose a woman's blouse because it offers more room for our breasts, or to buy women's jeans because they fit our curves better... all take us in a non-binary direction.  That is what I concluded for myself.  I'm not interested in transitioning but my body is much happier when I'm wearing a brassiere that both cradles and shapes my breasts in soft unlined cups.  That doing so makes my breasts more obvious gives me pleasure even though I've no interest in flaunting my breasts to people I encounter in the world.  I won't be wearing a brassiere when I visit a dear friend this afternoon... despite the fact I've told her about my gynecomastia and she knows about my history of crossdressing.  In fact, she doesn't see a problem with that behavior, though it has never been something she's witnessed in the decades we've known one another.  But, as I've said before, when I'm wearing a brassiere MY attention becomes focused on my breasts and I'd prefer to be focused on simply hanging out with my friend and playing gin rummy.  Life... ;)

Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Dudewithboobs on February 16, 2023, 04:21:32 PM
Lmao totally understand that. There are times when I’m at work and talking to a co worker and while wearing a bra has become quite second nature now days there are moments where i start to think about my bra more than that dialogue. Whether it’s a strap or just general adjustment in the cups or just acknowledging my own bra. Sometimes no bra is a better time in focusing on other things. 

Between needing to hold things in and not really having the same privileges women have in speaking, feelings, support, clothing, pampering and such I totally understand why a guy would have a breath of fresh air when having time to himself to explore that side of things. As someone who hasn’t developed curves but has developed fairly mild impotence with no intent to be tmi I’d be boggled why a otherwise average Joe kind of guy would experiment or supplement with estrogen to induce certain effects. I’d imagine some would find a calm of sorts with it but I’d imagine many would go wtf this is too much for me. But typing this I assume it’s those who find a calm in it the ones joining whatever forum you found lol. 

It’s nice ya got friends who know about gynecomastia and even wearing items. I envy those who do if I grow much more my friends are gonna know about gynecomastia cause I’m gonna have to explain it to them lol
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: 42CSurprise! on February 16, 2023, 07:35:16 PM
I'm dealing with diminished libido myself and my penis has definitely gotten smaller as my breasts have become more pronounced.  That was the reason I broached the subject with my doctor.  My guess is this happens more than most of us are aware of.  This is definitely not the topic one would raise with buddies while watching the Super Bowl...  But we talk about such things here, which for me is a relief.

Some of the men in the non-binary forum at also using electrolysis to remove facial and body hair.  That together with hormone replacement is clearly intended to give them a more feminine appearance.  We talk about our bodies becoming more curvy.  I know I've lost hair on my legs.  Removing my breasts would do nothing to deal with  the way estrogen is working in my body.  I'll live with the curves even as I'm learning to live with my breasts.  Of course, I'm retired so I don't need to put on a uniform and head into the office while pretending those breasts aren't hiding beneath my sports jacket...  This is easier...
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: blad on February 17, 2023, 12:28:12 AM
But, as I've said before, when I'm wearing a brassiere MY attention becomes focused on my breasts and I'd prefer to be focused on simply hanging out with my friend and playing gin rummy.  Life... ;)
If I don't wear a bra my attention becomes focussed on my unsupported breasts. 
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Evolver on February 17, 2023, 05:54:59 AM
To let go in a drastic way of the male ego and persona and just enjoy the relaxing life of being feminine.
Every now and then, pearls of wisdom are displayed on this wonderful forum. This ^ is another one.

If someone uttered the phrase to me "Slip into something more comfortable", rather than put on a silk robe and a pair of fluffy slippers, I would immediatetely let the pink half of my brain take over instead.

I can relate to what you said, dwb. For me it's not drastic though and doesn't include dresses or lipstick or anything like that. What happened with me was that over time I adopted some physical mannerisms, some of which I originally wasn't aware of at the time that I was displaying them (limp wrist, among other things) to match my mental ones, that could give some people a reason to label me effeminate. But, I don't care. I'm happy at my level, and feel absolutely lovely when slinking around the house, or wearing nighties in bed, or puffing my chest out in public, or when looking up different hairstyles that I imagine getting one day. I'm not transitioning or trying to 'pass', but when I allow myself to be consumed by the pink half of my brain, it really does have a calming effect. Although I love my male mask, complete with body hair, deep voice and the ability to carry out very physical tasks at work, what we perceive as the benefits of being feminine is something that I genuinely feel. I wonder though, generally speaking, do women feel calm because they are women? I suspect not.
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Johndoe1 on February 17, 2023, 06:58:21 AM
But, as I've said before, when I'm wearing a brassiere MY attention becomes focused on my breasts and I'd prefer to be focused on simply hanging out with my friend and playing gin rummy.  Life... ;)
If I don't wear a bra my attention becomes focussed on my unsupported breasts.
I am the same way. If unsupported, I feel every jiggle and bounce and bump. But when supported, I never pay any attention.
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Dudewithboobs on February 17, 2023, 09:32:33 AM
 Retirement would be great. 35 more years here lol. My job has been great in dealing with my growing chest. Cubicle in the back only 5 in the office and none near me. It’s really slowed me to enjoy the need for a bra as it’s become that and restrooms nearby allow easy traffic in passing maybe one person a day and easing into being relaxed in wearing a bra as it’s become time for a new size or relaxed in how they look in my work shirts now. I start a new job in a month in my community instead of two towns over and my insecurity’s are bit high thinking of what my desk will be like work area etc and if I’ll have the same confidence to wear where people in my town may work and if anyone I don’t know but knows my wife sees me and says something. Retirement would definitely be nice lol. 

Mannerisms is something I’ve noticed myself. Very subtle changes, sitting and immediately crossing my legs. Instead of hand on knee or leg hands sit in my lap a lot. Little bounce in my wrist as I notice my right hand specifically seems to stay relaxed. 
Imagination of things is much easier too when just letting it run it’s course and not trying to convince something is wrong with self because guys who are guys don’t think or get interested in this stuff. But removing that has been relaxing and eased anxieties that used to pop up when the pink side pops in to say hello lol. 
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: 42CSurprise! on February 17, 2023, 10:59:38 AM
And a simple reminder that how we present in public can be deceptive.  I mentioned before the question asked at one crossdressing site... how many men working in public safety... read police officers... were participating at the moment.  There were TEN.  So imagine those fellows in uniform wearing pink panties.  We definitely are not alone with our secrets...
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Gotboobs on February 17, 2023, 11:53:48 AM
According to some surveys, 1 in 20 men wear panties. So 5%. So every 20 men you see. One is wearing panties. And they say it’s well to do men on the financial scale. Not that it should make a difference or not what side of the scale you are on.
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Dudewithboobs on February 17, 2023, 12:03:45 PM
I don’t think it should matter either way ones financial scale leans in wealthy or not or in the middle. I think most men in their life get curious and it’s the most basic and easiest item to wear get and hide. A girlfriends or wife’s. Under pants no risk of being seen really. And just underwear. I have purchased in recent months just 3 styles of 6 pack pantys and wear them exclusively. I haven’t worn men’s underwear in maybe 4 months. It’s everything to do with comfort and fit and nothing to do with it being women’s. I think more than 1 in 20 would happily wear panties over boxers if they just let go of the bs male ego of it being women’s underwear and focus only on is jt more comfortable than what you’re currently and been wearing. I think if men did that we’d see that number drop dramatically. 
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: bikerbob on February 17, 2023, 12:28:57 PM
I tried a pair of my wife's lace panties out of curiosity and found that they supported the boys quite nicely.
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: 42CSurprise! on February 17, 2023, 12:45:41 PM
My guess is those police officers aren't wearing panties because they are more comfortable or fit better... unless we're talking about comfort between their ears.  There is something about being more feminine that is appealing.  Again, we're the ones with elevated estrogen and it is estrogen that affects our minds as well as our bodies.  We have every reason not only to try on clothes that fit our more feminine curves, including our breasts, but for appreciating the experience.  Yes, our male ego will resist.  That is the reason this self acceptance piece can be so challenging for men who come to this website to explore what is happening to their bodies.  Cutting off the offending breasts will make the male ego happy, but if estrogen continues to work in our bodies, there is much more to contend with than what might fill the cups of a brassiere.

Every man here has a long history of relating to his body, his family and community.  My experience is colored by the sexual trauma that included exposure to lingerie.  Others here had sisters and experimented simply out of curiosity.  Some had significant breast growth as teens that played with their minds.  Our response now to the reality of having this particular hormone stew is unique.  I respect that.  I'm enjoying the look and feel of the breasts that fill the brassiere I'm wearing right now.  Acceptance is certainly the key.  I'm glad I found this website and the men who are exploring this world.
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Dudewithboobs on February 17, 2023, 01:11:33 PM
Yeah when I let go of the male ego of trying other items it didn’t just feel alright it felt almost welcoming and right. I think for most here we are ok with how things have progressed from accepting our developments and accepting a bra does the job it’s to do and while it may be not normal to majority it’s quite normal for us. There is no facade for a deeper lying issue or interest. Sometimes clothes are just clothes with no real defining cause as to why one wears what they wear. I found when I let go of that I found myself a bit more. 
There’s natural ways to combat estrogen increasing for any reason it may. There’s supplements and medications to do the trick too. But I’d rather not. Idk why. I don’t want bigger breasts. I’m not against it if they grow more but for family sake id prefer if my boobs stop growing lol. I don’t want to take a medication or supplement I’ve become comfortable in things and I’m just enjoying the ride per se. 
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Orb on February 18, 2023, 12:59:06 PM
Yeah when I let go of the male ego of trying other items it didn’t just feel alright it felt almost welcoming and right. I think for most here we are ok with how things have progressed from accepting our developments and accepting a bra does the job it’s to do and while it may be not normal to majority it’s quite normal for us. There is no facade for a deeper lying issue or interest. Sometimes clothes are just clothes with no real defining cause as to why one wears what they wear. I found when I let go of that I found myself a bit more.
There’s natural ways to combat estrogen increasing for any reason it may. There’s supplements and medications to do the trick too. But I’d rather not. Idk why. I don’t want bigger breasts. I’m not against it if they grow more but for family sake id prefer if my boobs stop growing lol. I don’t want to take a medication or supplement I’ve become comfortable in things and I’m just enjoying the ride per se.
I like the way you said that.
Its true, be true to yourself.  The only wrong is not being right with yourself.  
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Johndoe1 on February 20, 2023, 10:54:48 AM
A female friend who knows made an interesting comment over the weekend.  She said that I was feminine male. I asked what she meant by that and she quickly said it was a compliment and to please not be offended. She said you dress for comfort and that doesn't always mean cis gender, meaning my bras and tops that work and because of dealing with my breasts as women do, gives me a unique view of life, even though I am male, present male but don't act like a typical misogynistic male. She said she wished all her male friends were more feminine male, meaning being a male was totally fine, it was nice to have male friends who understood what she as a woman has to deal with with body image, clothing and how others judge her on looks. I thanked her. 
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Gotboobs on February 21, 2023, 11:35:05 AM
Hormones are such a powerful thing. More so than most people can imagine. It makes us who we are. The effects are physical and mental. Our physical make up is based on hormones and our mental make up is based on hormones. So if your a masculine man or a feminine man. It’s hormonal. 
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: 42CSurprise! on February 21, 2023, 01:01:54 PM
Hormones are such a powerful thing. More so than most people can imagine. It makes us who we are. The effects are physical and mental. Our physical make up is based on hormones and our mental make up is based on hormones. So if your a masculine man or a feminine man. It’s hormonal.
Well said... the truth in fact.  Of course, overlaying the hormonal reality of our bodies and minds are cultural and familial attitudes about differences and about gender.  Being different as a child, regardless of what makes us different, is a curse in many situations and with many people.  Men here who developed fleshy chests as teens know all about this.  Some men resist and fight like hell to prove they are worthy males.  Those of us who spend time on the acceptance side of this website are both trying to understand how we've come to be this way, and to be kinder both to ourselves and others who are "different" in society's eye.  Honestly, I'm extremely grateful to be a feminine male.  I don't need to win every battle, to prove I'm always right.  I'm learning patience, kindness and compassion which are among the most beautiful qualities a human being can exhibit.  That is worth celebrating.  Finding a well fitting brassiere helps as well... ::)::)???
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Dudewithboobs on February 21, 2023, 04:29:40 PM
Agreed. I’ve never really had the macho man male ego crush a beer on the head approach to life. But always felt comfortable as a dude. I’ve had a lot of feminine tendencies growing up and in to adulthood due to just comfort and confident in my skin. Probably why when I developed breasts I didn’t care too tremendously about it. I get nervous as they grow more during times it seems they have. But I’m very comfortable with things and part wonders if it’s cause I have hormonal imbalances that keep me easy going as I hear and read in times I’ve looked in to it that a common effect of elevated estrogen in men is a calming effect of things. 
Im far from a feminine man but feminine things don’t make me feel less of a man. 
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: blad on February 22, 2023, 12:04:31 PM
There is a repeating underlying theme.

I was ready and accepting that it served me best to wear a bra very early on when I developed breasts. Once I tried a bra for the first time it was already obvious to me. I quickly did not mind wearing a bra and preferred how it felt to be supported.

The difficult part is / was how we think others perceive us. We are constantly guided by what we perceive others think rather than our own acceptance conclusions. Typically, as we become seasoned bra wearers, our concern of others perceptions fade away.
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Evolver on February 23, 2023, 05:13:35 AM
Catching up here, I find myself nodding my head furiously in agreeance with the past several posts.

The way I describe it all, and I hope it makes sense, I won't call it being in touch with our feminine side, or our pink brains, or our inner women - it is our feminine-ness, whether due to estrogen dominance or something more innate, that makes us feel that very special feeling as it pervades every aspect of our lives.
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: 42CSurprise! on March 09, 2023, 08:56:15 PM
I revisited a conversation I first encountered a few years ago, perhaps before I came upon this site and noted that someone with the username "Sophie" has been posting.  I'm certain it is our dear friend.  The conversation definitely runs along line discussed here... so I thought I'd share a link for those who want to follow this 11 year long conversation.  Clearly, it is not active at the moment, but it is nice to know we're not alone with exploring the reality of having breasts in more expansive ways.  These are kindred spirits... and may include OTHERS from this website besides Sophie... :o

https://lingeriebriefs.com/2012/11/08/what-happens-when-men-develop-breasts/
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Brdy64 on April 01, 2023, 09:39:19 AM
I would hope we all have evolved to the point of understanding that we may be guys but we have a trait that is very human but society deems gender specific. The truth is it doesn't matter what you have between your legs, we have glandular, mammary tissue on our chests that are part of the human reproductive system for what ever reason. We have, at least for the moment, decided to retain this mammary tissue and to maintain health, we should, need, to understand how to maintain good health of that tissue and that includes discussing it at a level that, to an outsider might seem unusual or uncomfortable. We have come to that point now and that's a good thing for our mental as well as physical health.
I hated my condition for years, then over time didn't even think about it much at all. I was for most of my life just an A, and then a B cup. Now a D cup and growing.
This recent growing spurt that is still continuing does have me scrambling to cope. Between selecting bras, clothing, and the like are challenging to say they least. 
But perhaps the strangest thing I find myself dealing with is the changes in my hormones. The effects on emotions, interests, and even my choice in colors. 
We have to deal with much more than just this breast tissue growth 🤔
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Normal boobs1 on April 01, 2023, 10:28:41 AM
Oestrogen pervades every cell in our bodies and to some extent changes everything about us no matter how much some guys wish or pretend otherwise.

11th Commandment = Thou shalt bash on
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Brdy64 on April 01, 2023, 10:38:42 AM
Oestrogen pervades every cell in our bodies and to some extent changes everything about us no matter how much some guys wish or pretend otherwise.

11th Commandment = Thou shalt bash on
Hair regrowth is incredible! 
I went from trimming my hair to about 1/4" length due to pattern baldness, to now growing a Mullet with only one area of slight thinning in the back. 
It just started growing about the same time as my last boob growing spurt. 🤔
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: 42CSurprise! on April 01, 2023, 11:22:12 AM
...But perhaps the strangest thing I find myself dealing with is the changes in my hormones. The effects on emotions, interests, and even my choice in colors.
We have to deal with much more than just this breast tissue growth 🤔
THIS is what I've been talking about.  Estrogen is working its magic to feminize us.  I don't think this is in any way abnormal, though it can be a cause for concern if being a manly man is important to one's well being.  When we were sixteen years old I don't imagine any of us had problems maintaining an erection.  Viagra arrived to much fanfare and we all know what that is all about.  We reach our peak of sexual potency as teens and it is downhill from there.  That doesn't mean we can't find ways of enjoying sexual intimacy.  As we know women NEVER have to "get it up."

So here we are, acknowledging that our bodies and minds are changing.  Breasts have accompanied us along the way... some of us for a long time and some of us more recently.  Self-acceptance is critical if we're to find peace of mind in the world.  At the moment I'm finding myself putting a brassiere on first thing after rising and spend the morning appreciating what nature gives me to fill the lovely brassiere I'm wearing.  8)
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Brdy64 on April 01, 2023, 11:45:55 AM

At the moment I'm finding myself putting a brassiere on first thing after rising and spend the morning appreciating what nature gives me to fill the lovely brassiere I'm wearing.  8)
I grab my bra first thing in the morning too. I feel naked without one on.

I catch myself looking down my shirt at the girls as well. They are a part of me about a much as any other part of my body.  

I really don't have issues with being endowed with breasts, I like my breasts.

I do have issues with people misgendering me because of my boobs. Or simply being nosey and gandering at them. 
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: blad on April 01, 2023, 11:59:40 AM
I am fine having boobs and wearing a bra daily.

A well fitting bra makes the boobs easy enough to live with, and I mostly forget about it most of the day.

It is concern about others peoples assessment that is the only negative to me.
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: WPW717 on April 01, 2023, 02:46:41 PM
Have been following this thread for a while and have had a good laugh at the comments because I have been thinking about this a lot ( the pinking of Bob’s life)
I have gotten to the point of they are big ( 44” under bust and 50 1/5 bust)
Have tried gynecomastia shirts-yuk-, then on to camisoles with support- helpful for a while- then on to a heavy duty pullover bra. The wife has been helping to get the correct size and fit.
A lot of east west side breast with spillover at armpits.
  The looks are becoming more frequent but only at the gym. No one has said anything yet but I was speaking to a fellow who was remarking how he has become a house husband after marrying a woman 20 years younger than him. We had a good laugh about the changes that age has made in our lives . He is 60,and I am 73. The conversation centered around the same topics of what society considers feminine tasks and our maturation into the enjoyment of doing them.

My personal experience has been mostly with breast development outwardly but the inward changes have grown very noticeable lately. The hormonal stew is different in me than most but the effects are the same.
Estrogen levels are normal for a man but the T levels are near castrate levels. No fat on hips but only breast development and a large change in the way my skin feels. Have begun to enjoy showering with a body wash instead of wash rag a bar of soap 
I am really getting a great education from you guys and Sophie.
Months ago deciding not to fight the changes but accepting then welcoming 
them has made a huge difference in my enjoyment of my life and retirement.
The cancer scares of the past months have abated only have a mammogram to go to completely rule out the diagnosis.
I has come down to idiopathic hypogonadism of a large magnitude not often seen. Genetics vs vaccine injury, who knows but I remain in a great space mentally when the medical community is saying I should be  depressed.
Never been happier 
Bob
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: oldguy on April 03, 2023, 05:56:53 PM
Have been following this thread for a while and have had a good laugh at the comments because I have been thinking about this a lot ( the pinking of Bob’s life)
I have gotten to the point of they are big ( 44” under bust and 50 1/5 bust)
Have tried gynecomastia shirts-yuk-, then on to camisoles with support- helpful for a while- then on to a heavy duty pullover bra. The wife has been helping to get the correct size and fit.
A lot of east west side breast with spillover at armpits.
  The looks are becoming more frequent but only at the gym. No one has said anything yet but I was speaking to a fellow who was remarking how he has become a house husband after marrying a woman 20 years younger than him. We had a good laugh about the changes that age has made in our lives . He is 60,and I am 73. The conversation centered around the same topics of what society considers feminine tasks and our maturation into the enjoyment of doing them.

My personal experience has been mostly with breast development outwardly but the inward changes have grown very noticeable lately. The hormonal stew is different in me than most but the effects are the same.
Estrogen levels are normal for a man but the T levels are near castrate levels. No fat on hips but only breast development and a large change in the way my skin feels. Have begun to enjoy showering with a body wash instead of wash rag a bar of soap
I am really getting a great education from you guys and Sophie.
Months ago deciding not to fight the changes but accepting then welcoming
them has made a huge difference in my enjoyment of my life and retirement.
The cancer scares of the past months have abated only have a mammogram to go to completely rule out the diagnosis.
I has come down to idiopathic hypogonadism of a large magnitude not often seen. Genetics vs vaccine injury, who knows but I remain in a great space mentally when the medical community is saying I should be  depressed.
Never been happier
Bob
Only 72, and we are experiencing the same things.  I still use soap in the shower.  Body hair is sparse.  Never been happier.  Retirement helps, a lot.
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Brdy64 on April 04, 2023, 06:27:59 AM
I'm still new here so I don't know what the site was like before I arrived.
I can only say that the conversations that I have read here resonate with myself, and I am better able to understand my own feelings after hearing from y'all.
Growing up in a very conservative environment where the genders must fit into a predefined outline is extremely difficult when you don't actually within the model.
I never really did fit within the model, and lately have been drifting further away from it. 
It has been very confusing for me because my emotions have been on edge. Over the last year I have been experiencing emotions that I never really felt before. There have been a lot of changes all of a sudden. I'm understanding now that I'm going through the hormone stew that's Brewing inside my blood.
As someone eloquently put it here on the site: "The girls are doing a hostile takeover of the body". 

Thanks to each and every one of you! 😉
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: WPW717 on April 04, 2023, 11:53:28 PM
OG,

Sparse hair was the first thing I noticed about 2 years ago. Couldn’t get a doc to draw a hormone panel.
“Oh Bob, you are just getting older”. Then there was a rapid loss of strength, upper and lower which was significant. Still no curiosity on the docs part. 
Then a search for a new doc, then Covid, then , then, then…
Happy to be alive for my retirement !
And you ? I like the new me.
Title: Re: Thread shift
Post by: Brdy64 on April 05, 2023, 01:50:49 AM
OG,

Sparse hair was the first thing I noticed about 2 years ago. Couldn’t get a doc to draw a hormone panel.
“Oh Bob, you are just getting older”. Then there was a rapid loss of strength, upper and lower which was significant. Still no curiosity on the docs part.
Then a search for a new doc, then Covid, then , then, then…
Happy to be alive for my retirement !
And you ? I like the new me.
Yeah, thinning body hair to the point that it's almost like female instead of male. My full beard wasn't looking too healthy so I shaved it off and keep it shaved. 
Hair on my head started growing like crazy, so I grew a mullet instead of cutting really short every month (bald areas even filled in quite a bit). 
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