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Acceptance / Re: This is me
« Last post by Parity on Today at 08:38:19 AM »
Looks to me JJ_Gyne, that you have accepted and found what works for you.  Bra choices like that give a nice rounded look without seams and such to show through shirts.  With your supportive wife and choice of bras I think you have it quite together.  That said in our minds we may have those times where we feel we are watched or checked out, just remember their thoughts really don't matter or change who we are.  
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Acceptance / Re: This is me
« Last post by Johndoe1 on Today at 06:45:03 AM »
JJ, very nice bra and you look well supported and contained and gives you nice cleavage. And your wife is right. Your breasts are very feminine in appearance. If you don't wear full-time, you could benefit for full-time wear. Nothing to be ashamed of there. Good on you!
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Sex / Re: ED from ED
« Last post by Evolver on Today at 01:53:05 AM »
Lots of raw honesty in this thread. Maybe THIS is the club that none of us wanted to join.

Atrophy, yes. Mine can also almost disappear in underwear. I also had a radical prostatectomy, but mine was nine years ago. I was already experiencing some ED before then, treated with viagra, and I was aware that permanent and complete ED was a risk factor after surgery. Happily, I felt some nocturnal stirrings while I was still in hospital, and even though it hurt with the catheter in place, it gave me a lot of confidence. But over the years things just got worse and worse. I was needing stronger and stronger doses of V, but it gave me horrible side effects like the feeling that my head (the one on my shoulders) was about to explode, and I couldn't handle it. 

I don't want to go into detail about what happened subsequently, but I did try other methods (Caverject) for a while, but certain events and circumstances since then have meant that the fire is well and truly out. Libido is almost zero now too.

Up until last year I was still able to pleasure myself occasionally even if mostly flaccid, but I also have nothing but numbness down there now most of the time. I suspect that I have experienced some damage to my pudendal nerve from a separate procedure I underwent last year. That procedure dealt with an issue that originated from my prostate cancer. The best I can hope for now is to edge, but it is very difficult to even reach that stage, and there is nothing after that at all. 

My wife and I are good. Nothing is expected, her libido is low too, but I am still able to pleasure her in a variety of different ways which we do every now and then, and that makes me happy too.




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A few have asked for my experience with Finasteride;  here it is:  As I mentioned I have long had gynecomastia - noticeable to me but just looking soft but fortunately not quite like breasts to others as a teen.  From my late 20s, I've had moobs that have been noticeable to be sure but not out of bounds for an bigger guy, they just stayed fatter when I was thinner.  The few tests I've had have been low-normal T.  I think medications exacerbated the condition.  I have been taking GERD meds since my 30s, blood pressure meds since my 40s (and pics from then show noticeable moobage) prostrate meds started in my early 50s.  Almost all of these carry some risk of gynecomastia. Maybe the additive effect of all, but my breats have defintely become increasingly noticeable with each year.

Finasteride:
I read up on finasteride - good and the bad - as nothing had really been working for my BPH (enlarged prostate).  The published rate for side effects is low (<1%), so it was well worth trying given magnitude of my BPH its surprising impact on lifestyle; I just hoped I would have minimal side impacts.  After a few months on finasteride, I just took Tamsulosin on occaison, and I was back to sleeping most of the night, although it took much longer to get to where I could make a couple of hours without a bathroom break.  More than three years in now, however, I can generally make a two plus hour meeting, show, flight or car trip, like my 40 something self could - I sometimes marvel at that.

Suspected side effects:  About a year in, I noticed my leg hair had almost disappeared and my legs got thicker, softer and at somepoint later developed spider veins and cellulite which I never had before.  I stopped needing to shave every day - now every other day.  A year ago I noticed my arm hair became so fine, it is almost invisible.  Chest, backside and hips are bigger than three years ago at similar weights. I've lost a little size downstairs, and Viagra has been more necessary.  More recently I feel less decisive/action-oriented.  I've lost strength and muscle bulk and it is harder to build back; Covid gym avoidance did not help.  Maybe due to less muscle, it seems harder to lose weight (and other meds don't help).

Thus while most may not get reduced masculinity/feminizing side effects, they are real for me and a percentage of the population. I've since read the incidence of gynecomastia from fin is higher in older men (5%).  In hindsight, I should have suspected I was much more likely to experience side effects given I already had gynecomastia; reports only consider those who develop gynecomastia on a given med, but no reports have that as a starting point.

So - would I do it all over again, knowing what I know? On the whole, YES. Looking back, I miss my former natural strength and focus, and I have to dress much more carefully; I miss the ability to lose weight.  The rest I can live with and frankly is not uncommon among post-midage men.  Overall quality of life, however, is much better; BPH was becoming quite problematic and limiting for me. I think the side effects I have are far better than the alternative of needing prostate surgery, which has not-insignificant risk of life-long incontinence, which would be far more life, lifestyle and career altering.  I also have prostate cancer risk; my understanding is fin reduces risk of low grade cancers and improves the detectability of more aggressive cancers (but does not change the risk of those), and certainly would be impactful.

This is my experience and as we all know we all react differently, and so absolutely discusss any BPH or other conditions and treatments with your doctor.
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When I was 8/9 I developed breasts and other boys my age would start groping me and I was made fun of by my siblings. I complained (because I knew this was wrong) but was instead told that is was my fault for not doing sports. In their mind fat is the same thing as breast tissue. Basically when the other boys would grope me and stuff it was seen as okay and if I had a problem with it I would have to work out to get rid of the breast. I found it very violating to be groped and I am upset they didn't get in trouble for it. My siblings would also make fun of me and I am upset my parents never said anything to them about how that is not okay. I believed that I had brought this stuff on me as punishment for me not working out/do sports so I hated myself and my body for a long time and thought I deserved groping/ being made fun of. I would later go in shape but breast didn't go away.


I'm sorry you had to live through that; you certainly deserved better especially from adults. I think and hope you are in a better place now.
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Sex / Re: ED from ED
« Last post by mgr on Yesterday at 11:21:08 PM »
I can confirm, for me, that atrophy is a real thing.  Prostate removal 12 years ago for cancer.  For medical reasons that I approved prior to surgery, they had to severe the nerves to get my prostate out (a lot of detail to write here), which left me completely unable to get any sort of erection at all.  6 years prior I lost one of my testes from a bad reaction to a vasectomy and then lost the second one 6 years ago.  Then length has shortened some, but the only thing left is the urethra and the head. There is not muscle or other tissue there.  It almost just disappears when I put my underwear on and especially so when I lay on my back.  

Nothing worked, so we stopped trying to get it to work.  

The one positive it that it is quite comfortable not having anything between my legs, especially when it is hot outside and I am out golfing.  
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it feels as though someone is just taking wild guesses at Creating these figures

I'm just trying to do the best I can to reduce the chances of the gyno worsening
There's more to the figures than meets the eye. Did you notice Brazil nuts at 887? I looked into what other things they contain elsewhere, and also learnt that not only are they high in phytoestrogen, but also testosterone and they are also high in zinc, which inhibits the aromatization process of converting excess testosterone into estrogen! So, despite their high phytoestrogen content, they are probably more likely to put hair on your chest instead of breasts, lol
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Alcohol is an anti-androgen, and inordinate consumption is a major cause of ED, 
Also known as Brewer's Droop. 😉
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Alcohol is an anti-androgen, and inordinate consumption is a major cause of ED, so ... drinking will DEFINITELY NOT stop (nor even slow down) gynecomastia.  As the old country / western tune lyrics went:
"Dohn come home a drinkin with luvin ahn yer mind"
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Acceptance / Re: This is me
« Last post by Dudewithboobs on Yesterday at 05:57:24 PM »
thats a nice bra! looks like a great fit and from the view it looks like it may conceal well under shirts. Seen in earlier posts that was a concern of sorts. Hope everythigs going well. Glad the wife is supportive as the bra is lol
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