Author Topic: Peru $800, New photos, pre-op, and day 2, 7, 11 and 19 after the surgery.  (Read 16228 times)

Offline speck3

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"Malaria is actually seen in every country, some with more incidents than others and it does occur here in the US also. All of the other diseases can be found also in the US, or do you think that we are disease free? Actually, we have the highest levels of heart disease" BigLou

Got to disagree with you on this one. Parasitic diseases in Peru are far greater in Peru than in the US. The only reason you'll find malaria and other tropical parasitic disease in the US is because it is from people who are traveling from other countries like Peru.
As far as Heart disease well fortunately heart disease is not transmitted like parasitic organisms are.

In reference to ignorance I thought you were glad there were people in the US who are since those are the people who help in the labor pool to keep costs down.

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"JINGO Bastard"--my my my if you hate the US so much why are you living here? Maybe you're not.

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Oh and let's not forget the precautions when you go to Peru.
Health - Preparations before you travel

If thorough precautions are taken by the visitor ofPeru, there is no reason why you shouldn't remain as healthy as at home.

1. Before you travel make sure that you own a good medical insurance. If you plan to undertake 'adventurous activities' such as rafting, horse riding or paragliding, make sure that your policy covers all of the above. You may have to pay a small amount for this.

2. For advice on which immunizations you require we recommend that you try contacting a specialist travel clinic (at least 6 weeks prior yourtravel).

Although not strictly necessary, you should consider the following vaccinations:

Yellow Fever (if going to the jungle)

Typhoid

Hepatitis A

Malaria prophylaxis are also recommended for the jungle, although nearly all of the jungle lodges in the Madre de Dios/Tambopata areas and Manu National Park state that there have been no reported cases of malaria, and that taking anti-malaria tablets are optional.

Health - Tips on staying healthy while traveling

The most common problem encountered by the traveler in Peru is diarrhea (between 30 to 50% of the travelers in a 2 week stay experience this) but the majority of these upsets will be relatively minor. Don't become paranoid; trying the local food is part of the experience of travel.

Tab water in Peru is not safe to drink. Always purify the water first by boiling it or adding purification tablets such as Micropure which can be easily bought in most pharmacies throughout Peru (make sure that you understand the instructions before using them). Bottled mineral water is easily availableanywhere.
Dude, you are ridiculous! Some people may not be rich like you and are willing to take a chance in Peru at an affordable price.

Do me a favor; Can I get a loan from you for 7k. I promise to pay you back at $50 per month. I will then get my surgery in the US.

Please help me!

Offline Superfred

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I did notice that in one of your pictures they put your tissue right smack on the blue cloth as opposed to a in a sterile solution so they can send to a lab.
What do you think they do in surgery, cut and immediately place the tissue in a sterile jar. I am sure the tissue did not get removed whole. So each time a surgeon removes a section of tissue he should have his sterile jar open and ready for disposal? I am sure immediately after surgery they did a thorough clean up and sterilization.
 

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Oh and let's not forget the precautions when you go to Peru.
Health - Preparations before you travel

If thorough precautions are taken by the visitor ofPeru, there is no reason why you shouldn't remain as healthy as at home.

1. Before you travel make sure that you own a good medical insurance. If you plan to undertake 'adventurous activities' such as rafting, horse riding or paragliding, make sure that your policy covers all of the above. You may have to pay a small amount for this.

2. For advice on which immunizations you require we recommend that you try contacting a specialist travel clinic (at least 6 weeks prior yourtravel).

Although not strictly necessary, you should consider the following vaccinations:

Yellow Fever (if going to the jungle)

Typhoid

Hepatitis A

Malaria prophylaxis are also recommended for the jungle, although nearly all of the jungle lodges in the Madre de Dios/Tambopata areas and Manu National Park state that there have been no reported cases of malaria, and that taking anti-malaria tablets are optional.

Health - Tips on staying healthy while traveling

The most common problem encountered by the traveler in Peru is diarrhea (between 30 to 50% of the travelers in a 2 week stay experience this) but the majority of these upsets will be relatively minor. Don't become paranoid; trying the local food is part of the experience of travel.

Tab water in Peru is not safe to drink. Always purify the water first by boiling it or adding purification tablets such as Micropure which can be easily bought in most pharmacies throughout Peru (make sure that you understand the instructions before using them). Bottled mineral water is easily availableanywhere.
This post is a brain fart.

Offline BigLouJr

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I must disagree, I am not insulting Speck3 nor the USA but merely disagreeing. I love this country, though I was born in another country and a US citizen now. In my native country, I almost die at the age of 2 months. My body rejected my own blood and different new types were given to me in hope of acceptance, this took place three times. I almost die when they finally gave me a blood that is very hard to find and it helps every other types of blood, yet is a very unique blood. Ever since my third transfussion, I have never been sick. My native country is Cuba and do you how much money it costed my parents to keep me in the hospital for 6 months, hundreds of exams, and three general blood transfussions without insurance (none in Cuba)? ZERO money, yes it is true, ZERO.

Now, how much you think your insurance would had pay for the same treatment here in the US and how much would your parents had to pay if it happened to you? A lot of money.

Cuba, at the time and it still is a third world country, where even medicine is scarce. The only medical health care system in the US that is free is in the military which I did enjoyed when I was in the Army, however, those doctors are not even board certified since it is not required unless you work within the territory of a state and not the military (federal territory and do not abide by state laws).

Now Speck3, here are some clues for you.

Hepatitis A is very common and it has a cure. It is very frequently seeing here in the US; however, Hepatitis C is more common in the US and is not cureable. If we had jungles in the US, do you think we would not have diseases too? Go to the desert and do not take water, see what happens when you get stranded. Same thing with the jungle, but that could happen in any jungle which we do not have (real jungle). What about poison ivy,we have that a lot and you dont see that in Iraq, they have almost no trees or plants since it is all desert. What I am saying is that many diseases come with its territory and geography and it has nothing to do with the government within that region or its health care system.

In the USA, we do not have preventive medicine nor do doctors try to have such things, all they care about is getting your insurance to pay their rate for services rendered. Preventive medicine cost a lot of money with little rewards for the physicians.

According to Speck's idea, if you are not living in the US, you are not healthy which is incorrect. Many countries with less medical technology have a lower infant mortality, healthier citizens, and longer life expetancy. If you do not believe it, compare by using the CIA Fact Book online and look for any european country; comparison should be done with the US.

The bottom line is, although this country has very good freedom laws, it lacks of a non-profit good health systems for its citizens. Imagine, all doctors get pay by the feds, all of the hospital and clinics are paid by the feds, all medical exams are paid by the feds and all you have to do is pay your taxes at the end of the year. No more insurance, go and see a doctor whenever you want. Gynecomastia free, grastric by-pass free, etc. It would never happen because of factions.












Offline BigLouJr

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I only care since I'm just trying to help others by showing good photos and actual glands. I had this problem since I was 24 and is finally over.

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I know this thread has been inactive for a while however, I am considering going to the same doctor in Peru as well as Big Lou. Yes, it sounds kind of scary to fly to another country to have surgery. One thing I'd like to add to this thread which has been over looked is the fact that a plastic surgeon not only has to have the education and certification, he has to be equally skilled technically and artistically. "He needs to have good hands!" You can be the most education surgeon in the world with the most advanced medical technology and knowledge, but without skilled hands - you are a bad surgeon.

Think about this: There are 9 year old kids in other countries that are musical prodigies. If so, why can’t there be surgeons in other countries that are excellent at their craft as well?

I had knee surgery to remove loose cartilage 15 years ago by a US surgeon that came highly recommended. Sadly the operation was not a success due to the fact that the surgeon didn't find the loose cartilage that was floating in my knee. Not only was the operation a failure, I couldn't bend my knee for 6 to 8 weeks. 2 years later, I went to a surgeon in Philadelphia who was the doctor for the 76ers basketball team, he redid the operation and did it right this time around. I was riding a bike within a few days and I could fully bend my knee almost immediately after surgery. So yes, there are US doctors that are excellent and there are also US doctors that are butchers too...

In closing, I am currently saving money in hopes to have my surgery done in Peru some time in 2008. I am a house painter, so I don’t make a lot of money. I will keep you all posted when I make my move.

Peace my Gyno brothers!
« Last Edit: January 24, 2008, 04:55:21 PM by Superfred »

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Oh my fking god the bruising... Has anyone else gotten bruising like that? Those pictures really freaked me out...

Offline KryptoKnight

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LOL    the brusing is the one of the costs of getting any type of surgery my friend LOL
not to mention  the loss of nipple sensation

I got nipple sensation so quickly, I was so happy about that.  I think like 10 days after the surgery.

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those bruises are totally normal, and if you're worried about complications, stick around for a few weeks and enjoy yourself, you could probably find a hotel to stay in there three weeks for the cost of one week here. 

that whole disease scare is off base.  cusco is at 11,000 feet, you'll never need a malaria or yellow fever shot, that's for other parts of the country toward the amazon, maybe hep but not much more, i'd almost worry as much about catching something from being in some hospitals here in the us.  altitude sickness would be a bigger worry and 95% of people would have no problem if they spent three days pre op adjusting and visiting all the local inca sites. 

my one concern would be does the guy have enough experience to deal with lipo versus excision etc and really appreciate the cosmetic side.  i'd just want a top end experienced guy no matter which country. 
« Last Edit: January 27, 2008, 10:55:43 PM by headheldhigh01 »
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LOL    the brusing is the one of the costs of getting any type of surgery my friend LOL
not to mention  the loss of nipple sensation

I got nipple sensation so quickly, I was so happy about that.  I think like 10 days after the surgery.

i had increased nipple sensation the whole healing time now back to normal.. no change from before surgery.


 

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