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Acceptance / Re: Crossdressers Excited by Their Gynecomastia
« Last post by Parity on Today at 04:40:22 PM »
  I tend to think of it in simple terms.

  If someone, born with an appendage between their legs and raised as a boy,  then truly feels in their head and heart they are a woman I would argue every time they dress in men's clothing they are cross dressing.  Wearing clothing you feel is wrong for you would then be cross dressing.  Shame society has the power to see things as only black and white.
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Acceptance / Re: Transgender But Not Transitioning
« Last post by Moobzie on Today at 03:10:03 PM »
There is also a whole bunch of historico-archeological evidence that matriarchal societies were not all that benevolent - lots and lots of infanticide.  Unjust violence is not limited to males (Cleopatra's Egypt, Elizabethan and Victorian England - duh!).

The book you showed the link to has some major historical falsehoods.  The author's thesis that patriarchy is the father (pun intended!) of all aggression while matriarchalism is pacific  - using monarchial England as an example - is ludicrous (just ask the Scots and the  Irish!!!).  And claiming that humanity was mostly peaceful until those terrible Jews invented violence and those terrible Catholics "demoted" Christ's Mother is asinine.
Human history - actual history - is far more complex, nuanced, and interesting than the crap-headed bigotry in that book.
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Acceptance / Re: Transgender But Not Transitioning
« Last post by 42CSurprise! on Today at 12:07:09 PM »
It is worth noting that it hasn't always been this way... testosterone in charge of everything that matters... or so it believes.  I read a fascinating book years ago that looks at archaeological evidence of female values predominating in some early cultures.  Yes, we could use more estrogen and less testosterone when it comes both to international relations AND family relations...

Chalice and the Blade
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Acceptance / Re: Crossdressers Excited by Their Gynecomastia
« Last post by 42CSurprise! on Today at 11:57:57 AM »
  I think the difference between me and a CD is, in my mind I don't have the desire to dress fully as a woman to feel complete.  I do enjoy some aspects of woman's clothing but have no desire to dress completely and present that way. 
I'm exactly the same. I'm not a crossdresser. I feel complete as I am...

Sorry if I've just blurred this thread and the 'transgender but not transitioning' one, but I think the reference to CD's is relevant.
I bring up what I encounter on the CD website not because I'm an advocate for going in that direction.  I feel much the same as you and Parity do... even when registering on that website I couldn't find it in myself to select a feminine name.  My beard is likely older than many of the folks on this thread and it isn't going anywhere.  BUT, we are all contending with issues outside of the norm.  Not only do men not generally develop breasts they conclude would benefit from wearing a brassiere, but they also on occasion enjoy the experience of wearing panties, sleeping in a negligee, putting on nylon stockings... whether they intend to present as female or not.  We each draw the line where it feels most comfortable for us.  We know that even within this group we have one person who chose to transition and one who chooses to present each day as a woman.  They both came because they'd developed breasts and both chose the path they are on at the moment.  Neither is the path for me... hence I wrote the post Transgender but not Transitioning.  I say transgender because of the reality estrogen is taking me to a place close to the center of the gender continuum.  Honestly, that is true for all of us with burgeoning bosoms.

Gender bending is happening in many ways.  Those of us wearing brassieres are doing it that way... however we choose to describe it.  I don't call it crossdressing but my guess those who embrace crossdressing as a way of life probably would shake their heads and disagree with me... different strokes for different folks.  
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Acceptance Garments / Re: I bought a strapless bra!
« Last post by Sophie on Today at 11:15:39 AM »
I've been wearing a bra full time for almost 35 years. I bought my first strapless bra about a year and a half ago. I saw girls over the years that had to keep tugging them back into place. I bought a Curvy Kate Luxe strapless bra and used a little double sided garment tape and I was good for my sister's wedding day.

♥️Sophie♥️
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Acceptance Garments / Re: I bought a strapless bra!
« Last post by Evolver on Today at 05:52:01 AM »
I should add, I will wear this bra with the straps in place but turn them around so that the adjusters are towards the front, for camouflage purposes. At least I won't have to adjust the straps to their maximum extent to get a good fit, unlike most of my bras. 

The cups themselves are a bit more padded than I expected too, giving me a boost, but the bra is still invisible under loose dark colored t-shirts.
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Acceptance Garments / I bought a strapless bra!
« Last post by Evolver on Yesterday at 11:23:56 PM »
I recently talked about how I had been looking into getting a strapless bra, after realizing that they have the advantage of a deep band and longer straps, which can be used several ways. I also discovered where I could get a 40A. Body Soft™ Wired Strapless Bra A-E | M&S AU (marksandspencer.com)

I've only had a brief try on so far, but I'm pretty happy with my purchase. Unfortunately the cups run a little large; I also have a 40B t-shirt bra which actually fits better, but never mind. I was really happy to see that the band is a full 3" deep at the hooks, of which there are four rows.

The lace layer over the band is extremely soft to touch, and quite pretty in my opinion. I also bought a 3-pack of matching high leg Brazilian briefs.

Crappy photos, but anyways:

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Acceptance / Re: Crossdressers Excited by Their Gynecomastia
« Last post by Evolver on Yesterday at 10:06:32 PM »
  I think the difference between me and a CD is, in my mind I don't have the desire to dress fully as a woman to feel complete.  I do enjoy some aspects of woman's clothing but have no desire to dress completely and present that way.  
I'm exactly the same. I'm not a crossdresser. I feel complete as I am, although I do push some boundaries at home every now and then. I'm even starting to deliberately shop for clothing that is, although unisex, based off typical female designs and I'm happy to wear that sort of stuff in public. But dresses or high heels etc.? NO WAY! I also don't even shave my legs or chest. Another factor that sets me apart from being 'just' a crossdresser is my comfort with my given masculine name. 

A transwoman, as a woman, absolutely needs to come up with a feminine name. A crossdresser, as a female impersonator, also needs to come up with a feminine name in order to align with their appearance. Me, who started out as a boy experimenting with bras and panties and happened to grow some moobs which I welcome, isn't trying to impersonate anyone. I'm just being me, wearing items that suit my body, heart, mind and soul, and I'm happy to keep my given masculine name along with my hairy legs and chest, no matter how pretty my hair and nails are or how dainty and smooth the fabric is of the stuff I wear against my body.

Sorry if I've just blurred this thread and the 'transgender but not transitioning' one, but I think the reference to CD's is relevant.
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Fat and Gynecomastia / Re: Still not sure if this is just fatty flab?
« Last post by Salsoul on Yesterday at 01:57:48 PM »
I have done the squeeze test a few times and it's certainly firmer than the love handles I also carry 😉
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Acceptance / Re: Crossdressers Excited by Their Gynecomastia
« Last post by 42CSurprise! on Yesterday at 12:11:14 PM »
I saw this posted on the crossdressing website in the discussion about breasts growing on their chests...


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For me, the bust is primarily a torment.
 
When I crossdress, yes, there is no need to use any inserts, the bras look almost like on the model, whose picture appears on the box.

But these are only moments.

But when you're a man and have breasts of size 40C, you have to somehow hide it under the shirt, you have a big problem.
Especially in the summer.


Lately I've been trying to slim down.
I'm just afraid if the boobs will decrease in proportion to the rest.
If not, it will be even worse, and in the summer it will probably be easiest to become a woman and start parading in dresses, blouses and skirts

We may not go in that direction, but the sentiment is surely one familiar to men on this website... what to do with those breasts when layers don't make sense...
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