Why do you all have agendas?

[Spleen]

Spleen, your understanding of the condition seems to be fundamentally flawed. We all know that it isn't life threatening, but the damage that it DOES obviously cause is mental. If someone thinks they look bad because of it, then that's what matters. It's a totally subjective thing and so I don't really see what you are hoping to achieve by just saying "nah, yours is fine."

The very fact that whoever you're addressing has taken the time to register and post here would lend evidence to suggest that they don't think so.

First of all, I've agreed plenty of times that folks have gynecomastia.  If I say that any particular case looks fine it's because I think it does.  I'm giving my own, quite reasonable opinion.  What troubles me is when I see guys with perfectly normal or acceptable chests being told they ought to rush out to a doc.  To be honest, there are a lot of folks here who lay their own insecurities on the young and uninitiated.

As far as gynecomastia "causing" mental damage, I guess we'll have to disagree.  There may be a correlation, but it does not *cause* "damage" or everyone with gynecomastia would be a 3 t-shirt-wearing, no-going-to-the-beach wallflower.  That's just not the case.  There are plenty of guys with boobage of various degree that have happy, healthy, normal and well-adjusted lives.  You don't have to like your chest, but most people can do something about it medically (I'm getting cut up in a couple months) if they so choose.  If I do have an "agenda" then it's just to say that while gynecomastia can be embarassing, it ain't the end of the world.  

[Paa_Paw]

Spleen,

Your last line says it all.  I could not have said it any better.

[Cuttin Headz]

Testing, Testing, 1, 2, 1, 2! My agenda for this oh so sensetive and heartbreaking condition that I and many others here suffer from is that No Man should live with this crap. It's like chicks with dicks. Shemalez, no I aint, kid, thank you, here is your head on a silver platter. Everybody is eventually gonna get surgery. Sooner or later, they are going to decide to get it, except the few here, such as users Gine2D and Paa_Paw, aka Winnie the Pooh, whom have accepted their own gyne as part of who they are. We gotta find a cure or something for this disease, no, epidemic. Prices for surgery should be covered by those insurance company bastards. Gyne sufferers all over the world should be lining up to get their gyne cut off, figuritively. We must end this malady that has been spreading accross the nation, no, the world. Thank you, and God Bless America! Wu-Tang forever!

[aux513s]

Amen, Cuttin Headz.

One day even Gine2d and Paw_Paa will get surgery. If not voluntarily I think they should be kidnapped and forced to have it.

It should be illegal for a man to have gyno! This is a war we're in, a war against gyno. It's like the war on drugs in a way.

[hypo]

Just to be cryptic

You can't wage war on a noun.

I like the humour though.

[Cuttin Headz]

Yah!!! I am proposing from the UN a $30 Trillion dollar bill for every male in the world with gyno to have at the minimum, $10,000 worth of money going towards plastic surgery. And if it doesn't go through, I'll knock Kofi Annan's teeth out 'till he's toothless. They need to use the money they laundered through Oil-For-Food for this instead of that Tsunami Relief shit. I mean, I saw a Tsunami victim with an Osama Bin Laden T-shirt on. They promote terrorism!  

Gyne surgery needs to be covered by insurance, it is not just "cosmetic" the way those fudgepackers put it. My cousin, who works as a billing secretary for her doctor's patients, always has trouble getting insurance to pay, for ANYTHING at all! Specifically, Medicare and NHP. She says that the best insuracne company is Blue Cross Blue Shield. But they all blow. Many gyne sufferers are on the brink of suicide. They NEED it! Or, look at Dr. Ti Tu Fat's offer below with his new Fatal Flying Guillotine technique for free.

[STILLgotIT]

Just to be cryptic

You can't wage war on a noun.

I like the humour though.

Uh, please explain this to me. A noun is a "person, place, or thing."

So, I would think all wars are waged against nouns.

1) Persons: A nation is made up of people.
2) Places: People inhabit the place that a typical war is waged upon.
3) Things: A "thing" is sort of an abstract term that can be descriptive of physical things, such as cigarettes... or it can be more of a non-physical thing such as dishonesty or poverty.

What else are you going to wage war on if not on a noun? A verb? What is that? The war on jumping?

[vaio]

lol

[hypo]

You didn't get it.

A noun is the part of speech that is used to name a person, place, thing, quality, or action.

You can not wage war on a part of speech.

Unless you are having a war of words, which we may be said to be having

[vaio]

I don't get it Hypo  

[headheldhigh01]

it's a joke.  (i first read the "cryptic" actually as an allusion to the so-called war on terror, which gets taken as a real thing in spite of constitutional stipulations for declaration etc.)  

[hypo]

It also works on that level too.  

You can't have a war on terror because terror isn't an actual target, it cannot be captured and it cannot be defeated.  Indeed there is no definition of victory or defeat.

The same is true of the said war on drugs and of gynecomastia- if you use war in that context.

Terror, drugs, gynecomastia all are constantly changing developing, regressing and shifting; they are ephemeral by nature and in a practical sense cannot be waged war on.

You can disregard all of the above if you change your constitution and you allow for the fact that war is constant, ongoing and has no definition of victory, in which case your war is Orwellian and- War is peace.  

I was aware of this usage of my sentence as head correctly thought- just that I was using it in the less grand sense of irritatingly literal word play.

As a noun doesn’t actually physically exist, but is rather a concept of speech and something conceived in the mind you cannot literally wage war on it, at least no more so than you can wage a war on the ether or the last thought I just had.  

P.S

This Is is a bit of a wacky subject- we should be in the lounge area with this.  Would anyone like a drink I'm going to the bar?

[STILLgotIT]

Sure, but understand that words are not merely gust of wind coming out of your mouth, they are representative of the object to which they have been assigned.

So, a shoe is really a thing that goes on your foot, not just a peculiar gust of wind from your lung.

Did this really need explaining?

just that I was using it in the less grand sense of irritatingly literal word play.

And irrating it was.  

[hypo]

I said I was being cryptic and I maintain you cannot wage war on a noun, word play aside for the the other reason I have illustrated.

[STILLgotIT]

OK.

So, you can can wage war on person's, places, and things. Just not nouns.

I got it. Thanks.