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Offline keebler

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My gyno came about due to using supplements I bought from the supplement store which is basically "legal steroids" which mess with a person's hormones.  I had breast tissue for about two years in one nipple and the other one was just a little puffy.  The one with tissue got to be about 3/4 the size of a golf ball.  I just had surgery less than two weeks ago but the dr. said I only need surgery on the one because there isnt enough in the other nipple to take out.  Well since my surgery, the one I did not have surgery on seems like its getting bigger and there is a definite pain there which has not been there before.  Why is this coming on all of the sudden?  I am no longer taking the supplements and have not for about 3 or 4 months.

Offline jakeyboy08

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Hello keebler,
I Would personally recomend going to see you doctor,
This could be worse than Gyno and considering you are in pain i would 100% recomend seing him/her,
At the end of the day its better to be safe then sorry.

Jake
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Offline omega

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Were you using prohormones?
I've read on the BB'ing forums quiet often that gyno caused by prohormones can sometimes be temporary...

Offline keebler

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I believe they were prohormones.  It wasnt temporary though because I had it for a couple of years without using it.  I did see a testosterone  replacement therapist and she was prescribing me Arimidex to control it and it did for the most part but then my insurance stopped covering it because its a women's breast cancer medicine.

Offline keebler

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How do I know that an endocrinologist will be familiar with this before visiting him/her?  I have been to one before and he basically said he couldnt do anything for me.

Offline headheldhigh01

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sounds like you just need to shop around with a few phone calls or get possible recommendations from the ones who don't know it. 
* a man is more than a body will ever tell
* if it screws up your life the same, is there really any such thing as "mild" gyne?

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My gyno came about due to using supplements I bought from the supplement store which is basically "legal steroids" which mess with a person's hormones.  I had breast tissue for about two years in one nipple and the other one was just a little puffy.  The one with tissue got to be about 3/4 the size of a golf ball.  I just had surgery less than two weeks ago but the dr. said I only need surgery on the one because there isnt enough in the other nipple to take out.  Well since my surgery, the one I did not have surgery on seems like its getting bigger and there is a definite pain there which has not been there before.  Why is this coming on all of the sudden?  I am no longer taking the supplements and have not for about 3 or 4 months.

I believe they were prohormones.  It wasnt temporary though because I had it for a couple of years without using it.  I did see a testosterone  replacement therapist and she was prescribing me Arimidex to control it and it did for the most part but then my insurance stopped covering it because its a women's breast cancer medicine.

Prohormones and hormones can mess with the delicate balance of the endocrine system. Some problems take months to years to never being able to normalize. Such issues are best managed with an experienced gynecomastia endocrinologist before considering surgery.  With breast regrowth after surgery, the problem again is best stabilized before considering revision options.

I caution each of my patients that surgery does not typically stop male breast growth.  If there is a problem with growing breasts, recurrence can happen.  Any of these medical problems and or these medications can cause gynecomastia. So, if you want to get worried about regrowth, you could get yourself evaluated for each of these conditions to see if they could be a factor. 

If you are using something that can stimulate breast regrowth, shreds of gland remain behind with any surgical technique.  It is just not practical to remove all elements of gland.  The problem is that there are fine fingers of gland that dissect between fingers of fat and can extend quite far into the chest. Take a look at the Anatomy of Gynecomastia to see what I mean.  Even with a radical mastectomy (a disfiguring technique used for some male breast cancer problems), some gland can remain.  Surgery also does not prevent weight gain in the chest.  Men tend to put weight on the belly and chest regions.  I educate each of my patients that this surgery will not prevent further breast growth.  It is like changing/fixing a tire with a nail.  Fixing/changing the tire will not prevent you from getting a new nail in that tire.

Regrowth of gland from stimulation can occur where shreds of gland remain behind. This can be behind the areola, along the deeper edges or margins of a zone of excision. 

I take care of many patients with gynecomastia, as many as 8 in one day alone.  With all the gynecomastia surgery I have done, it is very rare to have regrowth for patients I have sculpted.  One patient (who had surgery on only side by another doctor) came to me with pro hormone induced gynecomastia that only came back on the side that had no surgery.  His growth was massive on the one side and none on the other.  His surgery by that other doctor had left a massive crater - the skin was adherent against the chest wall with normal fat surrounding the ugly deformity.  One side looked like the deformity seen here.  The other side was almost a B cup breast so tender that I could barely examine it.  As with each patient who presented to me with current breast growth, he was referred for an endocrinology evaluation and stabilization before considering surgery.  I do not know if such radical surgery was a factor or not.   Even if it did, removing all fat under the skin just gives an unnatural look.

Here is another example of Gynecomastia Breast Regrowth on my site.  Caution this is a graphic picture of the massive gland regrowth removed on the operating table.

This patient is rather unusual. He was a misdiagnosed genetic female who has lived his entire life as a male.  His birth certificate says male as does his driver's license. Yes, a terrible mistake labeling him male made from birth and early on not recognizing his Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia.  His body has been exposed to high levels of androgens and estrogen since within his mother's womb. This results in an a condition better called Intersex than the older phrase Hermaphroditism.

I prefer to target the gland first with my Dynamic Technique. This permits me to remove most of the gland and then sculpt the remaining tissue to minimize contour problems.

By concentrating on the gland first I am able to minimize the chance of breast regrowth.  It is very rare for my patients to have recurrence.  With my techniques and my Red Flag Evaluation System before surgery, I have only a few patients over the many years I have been doing surgery that I know have regrown.  However, gynecomastia surgery does not stop breast regrowth.  For patients having breast growth, I have advised for many years that they should get their problem under control before surgery.  There are exceptions, such as young men with massive breasts that have not stopped growing.  That is why each case needs to be individually evaluated. 

Prevention and stabilizing the problem(s) causing gynecomastia, when possible, is much better. We help patients explore such issues during consultations or preliminary remote discussions.

Hope this helps,

Michael Bermant, MD
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