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Title: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on December 03, 2012, 03:44:25 PM
Sup All,

I am a long time viewer and first time poster on this site. I am Damien, I am 24 year old and I have been suffering with Gynaecomastia since childhood. I have been considering getting surgery so many times but I was either busy finishing off my degree or working part-time and not earning enough to save with the ever increasing cost of living in London. I have obtained a solid job and I am ready to make this happen.

I have just emailed Jeremy and I am looking to have the procedure this month with any luck.
I am a bit curious as to the results I might get. I consider myself a bit chubby and I am keen to hear from anyone else here who what they think really.

Please let me know guys.

Many thanks,
Damien    
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on December 03, 2012, 04:36:51 PM
Sorry, guys how do I embed pics on this forum? Apparently I am not suppose to refer to image shack or anything? Please let me know guys. :/

Damien
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: Poland2012 on December 03, 2012, 10:43:23 PM
I'm about 8 hours out, so I'll refrain from passing judgement just yet. Look at the additional posting options for images.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: zack42 on December 04, 2012, 01:49:19 AM
Damien I'm nearly 6 weeks post-op and am very pleased with the results.

I suppose if you're chubby you may need a bit more lipo.  If you're concerned about that maybe just try to lose as much weight as you can before the op.

Good luck and let us know if you have any questions.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on December 04, 2012, 04:05:43 PM
okay here we go.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on December 04, 2012, 04:08:24 PM
Sup Zak42,

Wow I am real pleased for you. I read your post too and I am real happy for you mate. And at six weeks, may I ask, do you feel any pain on your chest or any particular discomfort?

Damien
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on December 04, 2012, 04:11:22 PM
Cheers Poland!

Wow, I really had to crop my picture to get it on the board. Is that what you guys are doing too or am I being thick? LOL! Sorry, not very bright here.

Many thanks,
Damien     
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: zack42 on December 04, 2012, 04:20:44 PM
Damien I don't feel any pain day-to-day.

There is a little discomfort when massaging but certainly nothing to worry about.

I'm going to start some light weight-lifting soon and see how that goes.

Have you heard back from Jeremy?
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on December 04, 2012, 04:57:47 PM
Thanks Zack42!

That sounds awesome! Yeah, just keep pumping your chest and trust me you will be looking great! Are you benching at all?
I did get a response from Jeremy – 1 hour later to be exact. I have gotten the forms to fill out and I have now gone back to him and asked for available dates. I plan to pay the £300 Deposit this week and an additional £294 for Atrium Hotel (6 nights) I may postpone my plan to the end of January 2013 – purely for annual leave at work.

This is all so exciting dude!
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: Poland2012 on December 04, 2012, 11:30:41 PM
Cheers Poland!

Wow, I really had to crop my picture to get it on the board. Is that what you guys are doing too or am I being thick? LOL! Sorry, not very bright here.

Many thanks,
Damien     


Resize them, don't crop them. After seeing my initial results, I really recommend going through with it. I just wish I'd done it sooner.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: zack42 on December 05, 2012, 02:25:26 AM
Damien, I'm not trying to put you off the Atrium hotel because apparently it's good but the Hotel Ibis Centrum is much much cheaper and totally adequate.  I stayed there and although it's quite basic, it's comfortable and has everything you need (including free Wifi).

I haven't started my weight training yet but will do this week and am looking forward to seeing the results with my new chest!
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: Poland2012 on December 05, 2012, 02:30:31 AM
I'd second the Ibis. It's close to the shopping centre, and there's a couple of grocery stores right next door. If you book more than a month in advance, you also save a fair bit.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on December 05, 2012, 02:53:39 PM
Cheers Guys,

I will definitely consider the Ibis then! I saw the picture of the rooms and it seems gorgeous and I would need the shopping centre close by too! Hahah thanks for the advice guys! Is it close to the clinic though? Did you book this on your own in advance?

I have sent my response, but I have not had a response yet. Oi Poland! Stop hogging their time and let Jeremy respond to me, will yah! LOL! Just kidding guys!

Damien 
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on December 05, 2012, 03:01:29 PM
Cheers Guys,

Just checked the Ibis website in Szczecin and wow, its £24 per night! Just half the amount that I would pay for Atrium! You guys are awesome! Thanks!

Damien 
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: zack42 on December 05, 2012, 04:55:08 PM
Damien the Ibis is about 12-15mins from the surgery and I got a taxi there and back every time.  The taxis are much cheaper in Poland than the UK so it really wasn't bad at all.  For £25 a night, the Ibis is a bargain!  Yes I booked on my own in advance via their website.  As I said before, it's quite basic but has everything you need.  If you have any other questions let us know.

Jeremy isn't always that quick at replying but he will get round to it eventually.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: Poland2012 on December 06, 2012, 01:14:19 AM
Cheers Guys,

I will definitely consider the Ibis then! I saw the picture of the rooms and it seems gorgeous and I would need the shopping centre close by too! Hahah thanks for the advice guys! Is it close to the clinic though? Did you book this on your own in advance?

I have sent my response, but I have not had a response yet. Oi Poland! Stop hogging their time and let Jeremy respond to me, will yah! LOL! Just kidding guys!

Damien 


It's less than 2 pounds to take a taxi to the shopping centre, and I think it's actually nearer to Galaxy than the Atrium.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on December 06, 2012, 03:29:14 PM
Sup Guys!

Long day at work! I got a response from Jeremy and I have confirmed 3rd of January 2013! I am so chuffed. I went ahead a booked easy jet. Cost me £63.95. I am looking to book the Ibis next but I will be waiting for further confirmation from Jeremy. Real happy.
Feels a bit like a dream. Will keep you posted guys.

Damien
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: zack42 on December 07, 2012, 02:15:22 AM
Well done Damien.  That's not far away so not much of a wait either.

Keep us updated and fire away if you have any questions.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: Poland2012 on December 07, 2012, 02:46:18 AM
I had to wait 7 months for the surgery, so I promise you that the time really will fly by. My advice is to read all the blogs so that you know exactly what to expect, buy jelonets now, and get some nike pro vests.

When you arrive, check in and go straight to the Galaxy centre; go to the second floor grocery store and head to the fruit isle; buy a lot of nuts, dried fruit and oranges. You have no idea how helpful it was to have a food stash in my room for the first few days. Make sure to buy a bottle of something while you're there, that way you can refill at the tap and you'll be able to get a good amount of liquid after surgery.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: zack42 on December 07, 2012, 02:54:02 AM
Agree with Poland re: fruit & dried nuts etc.

Also, there is a little convenience store about 25metres from the Ibis hotel if you go out and turn right.  That's where I bought all my water - I'm sure the tap water is fine but I drank bottled from there.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: zack42 on December 07, 2012, 02:54:37 AM
Oh and if you need to buy Jelonet, PM me because I bought loads and still have some left.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: Poland2012 on December 07, 2012, 03:05:43 AM
Agree with Poland re: fruit & dried nuts etc.

Also, there is a little convenience store about 25metres from the Ibis hotel if you go out and turn right.  That's where I bought all my water - I'm sure the tap water is fine but I drank bottled from there.

Tap water here is pretty good actually. I'm drinking so much fluids that I don't think I could viably go with bottled water.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on December 07, 2012, 11:51:35 AM
Hey Guys,

Have just completed another set of admin. I made a deposit of £300 to Jeremy Clark HSBC account today. I had to make the deposit via cash and pop to my local HSBC back to make the deposit as I know that the money comes through instantly and I needed to do this before the 24th. I tell you some bank staff are not always helpful! They made me queue up again for not filling in the pay in slip properly and when I did meet with the cashier, he seemed more interested in knowing what time he needed to go lunch than serving me. Lol! It’s cool though - I don’t bank with them.

I am also booking the Ibiz hotel – it’s going to cost me £305 for 10 days which is not that bad. This also includes breakfast each morning. Tell me guys; was the breakfast buffet any good? – that’s if you opted for this option. I am so happy and privileged to have your support guys.

Noted: I will get some dried fruits – Opps can’t have nut though on the account of my allergies. LOL! Bottle of water – check!

Oh, I was going to ask – did you pay Jeremy to organise the minibus ride from Berlin to Ibis, Szczecin hotel?

Yeah, I might just take you up on that offer on the Jelonet, Zack. I have just ordered a few myself – but will let you know. Should I also buy a compression vest or is this provided?

Many thanks for your support guys.
Damien 
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: Poland2012 on December 07, 2012, 12:14:20 PM
I made it to the buffet for the first time this morning, and would not spend my money on it. It was a complete waste with very little on offer and food that had been sitting out for a while. Stock up on food at the store and you'll be much better off.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on December 07, 2012, 12:35:17 PM
Sup Poland,

How’s your recovery going? It is really cold over the by the way? Crappy buffet. Poland, you are a man of wisdom. I will not be booking the buffet.
Many thanks bro!

Damien
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: Poland2012 on December 07, 2012, 12:58:21 PM
No, problem. Only 96 hours out, but recovery's going great and I'm just killing time at this point. I'd add that the money for the buffet would go much further outside of the Ibis. There are some great bakeries in the area.

It started snowing on the Wednesday, so it will be really thick by the time you get here. Gloves, warm coat and hat will be a minimum.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: Poland2012 on December 07, 2012, 01:01:30 PM
Hey Guys,

Have just completed another set of admin. I made a deposit of £300 to Jeremy Clark HSBC account today. I had to make the deposit via cash and pop to my local HSBC back to make the deposit as I know that the money comes through instantly and I needed to do this before the 24th. I tell you some bank staff are not always helpful! They made me queue up again for not filling in the pay in slip properly and when I did meet with the cashier, he seemed more interested in knowing what time he needed to go lunch than serving me. Lol! It’s cool though - I don’t bank with them.

I am also booking the Ibiz hotel – it’s going to cost me £305 for 10 days which is not that bad. This also includes breakfast each morning. Tell me guys; was the breakfast buffet any good? – that’s if you opted for this option. I am so happy and privileged to have your support guys.

Noted: I will get some dried fruits – Opps can’t have nut though on the account of my allergies. LOL! Bottle of water – check!

Oh, I was going to ask – did you pay Jeremy to organise the minibus ride from Berlin to Ibis, Szczecin hotel?

Yeah, I might just take you up on that offer on the Jelonet, Zack. I have just ordered a few myself – but will let you know. Should I also buy a compression vest or is this provided?

Many thanks for your support guys.
Damien 


Give him your flight details and he books the transport. He includes it in the final cost. I paid in advance as it seemed so much easier than taking the money with me. Remember to make sure that your passport is up to date.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on December 07, 2012, 02:26:06 PM
Wow! Well have a nice recovery! Wow, can’t believe its snowing there. Thick coats and gloves will be packed. Sure thing, I will send my flight details to him today.
Wishing you a speedy recovery, Poland.

Many thanks,
Damien
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: wezzer on December 07, 2012, 05:47:48 PM
A lot of people seem to fly to Berlin and then get the 2 hour bus to Sczecin (i never spell that right), would it not be easier to fly to Sczecin directly and then get the 30 min car ride?

I'm excited for you Damien, I hope everything goes great, i'm looking forward to reading your experience!
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: zack42 on December 07, 2012, 07:07:30 PM
I got a flight to Berlin because it was direct from Liverpool which is near to me.  If you can get direct to Szczecin for the same price then that would be a shorter journey once you get there.  Just ask Jeremy and he sorts all the travel to and from the airports for you and it's cheap too.

I would not bother with the breakfast at Ibis - as Poland says you get much more for your money outside of the hotel.  Same goes for evening meals and if you want some restaurant tips let me know.

With regards to the compression vest, the surgery provide a compression wrap that you need to wear 24/7 for the first 10-14 days.  After that I wore a compression vest during the day and the surgery's compression wrap at night.  The compression vest I bought was from Macom and was brilliant - if you used the code 'mybreast' at checkout you get a discount.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: wezzer on December 08, 2012, 02:06:57 AM
I rmbr seeing pics of Jake's compression wrap, it seemed quite bulky. Would they not let you use the Macom vest as soon as you got back to the hotel or is the vest just not tight enough to wear straight away?
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: zack42 on December 08, 2012, 05:51:56 AM
The wrap from the clinic is quite bulky - I think you could substitute for the Macom vest as soon as you get back to the hotel if you wanted but it might be worth checking with Katarzyna.

I just bought a shirt & zip-up top a size too big for me from a charity shop to wear during the first 10 days!
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: Poland2012 on December 08, 2012, 09:58:53 AM
You can get pretty much get away with it in a dark polo. It won't really matter in Szcezin as you'll have several layers on. The only possible problem with the macom is that it may be difficult to dress the wound properly as it requires a fair bit of gauze. Kataryzna should be able to tell you.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on December 08, 2012, 04:44:01 PM
Thanks Guys!

I have got a compression vest already but I will be using that they will provide for me for maximum recovery. As each day pass, I am really looking forward to my surgery. I am going to take a bit of cash with me for shopping etc. can I spend British pound in Poland? Or is it worth me getting my currency exchanged before I go?

Damien   
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: zack42 on December 08, 2012, 05:34:54 PM
No you can't spend GBP.  You need to get some Polish zlotys before you go.  I took £150 worth and had some money left over.

Once you get your date confirmed it all becomes very real!
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on December 09, 2012, 04:50:28 AM
No you can't spend GBP.  You need to get some Polish zlotys before you go.  I took £150 worth and had some money left over.

Once you get your date confirmed it all becomes very real!

Nice one, thanks Zack! Will be popping to Thomas Cook shortly.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: Poland2012 on December 09, 2012, 10:17:06 AM
I've just got back from lunch and I'd add a good pair of boots to your list. The snow is coming down thick and fast.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on December 09, 2012, 03:11:06 PM
WOW! REALLY! Okay Poland will do. Man this is going to be fun. Love snow! Cheers Poland. How long are you staying in Poland for by the way? Seems like you been there forever? LOL!
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: Poland2012 on December 10, 2012, 01:43:50 AM
Today is my last. 9 days have gone surprisingly quickly.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: Poland2012 on December 10, 2012, 07:23:07 AM
I'm waiting for my bus to take me to the airport. I had my last check up and Kataryzna aspirated about 60ml from the left side, showing me how to do so in future. I was given a couple of syringes and told what to ask for at the Chemist if I needed more. Apparently it can take up to 6 weeks for the capillaries to regrow, so I may have to do it periodically. I'll try to update regularly, especially for those about to have their own surgery. All in all, a great experience.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on December 10, 2012, 04:03:25 PM
Sup Poland!

Awesome bro! Hope you have a nice flight back home. Kataryzna suggested you might have to drain yourself once more? Then again, it’s actually only nine days so you will be bruising a lot. Can I ask, when you drain, do you drain out water or a mixture of water and blood?

All the best mate and let us know how you getting on.

Damien 
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: wezzer on December 10, 2012, 07:17:54 PM
Have a safe trip home mate, Im looking forward to hearing your in-depth report, lol.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: wezzer on December 10, 2012, 08:31:30 PM
Just wanted to let you guys know that I've just paid my deposit and booked my flights!
I'll be having my surgery on the 10th June!
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: zack42 on December 11, 2012, 02:47:38 AM
Congratulations wezzer - brilliant news and you won't regret it.  The time will fly by but in the meantime good luck with the money saving and just let us know if you have any questions about anything.

Poland - all flies by quickly doesn't it.  Can't believe I'm nearly 7 weeks post op - it only feels like yesterday that I was in Szczecin.  Keep us updated with your progress - this Europe section seems to have got busier lately and it would be good to know how you get on with your recovery now.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: wezzer on December 11, 2012, 07:43:11 AM
Congratulations wezzer - brilliant news and you won't regret it.  The time will fly by but in the meantime good luck with the money saving and just let us know if you have any questions about anything.

Poland - all flies by quickly doesn't it.  Can't believe I'm nearly 7 weeks post op - it only feels like yesterday that I was in Szczecin.  Keep us updated with your progress - this Europe section seems to have got busier lately and it would be good to know how you get on with your recovery now.

Thankyou man!
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on December 12, 2012, 03:01:01 PM
Just wanted to let you guys know that I've just paid my deposit and booked my flights!
I'll be having my surgery on the 10th June!
Nice one bro! 10th June! Not long to go now! Save, save, save! Wish you all the best man! I bet you are uber excited!
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on December 12, 2012, 03:03:16 PM
Congratulations wezzer - brilliant news and you won't regret it.  The time will fly by but in the meantime good luck with the money saving and just let us know if you have any questions about anything.

Poland - all flies by quickly doesn't it.  Can't believe I'm nearly 7 weeks post op - it only feels like yesterday that I was in Szczecin.  Keep us updated with your progress - this Europe section seems to have got busier lately and it would be good to know how you get on with your recovery now.
Nice one zack!
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on December 27, 2012, 07:12:13 PM
Sup Guys,

The countdown truly begins. Six days now before my surgery with Ostrowska-Clark in Poland. I have got to say; I am really excited and actually quite mentally prepared. I have gone through all my preparation and I have read and re-read all your threads on this forum in order to gear me up for the day. I will keep you posted and I will be taking a lot of pictures.

Soon,
Damien 
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: wezzer on December 28, 2012, 02:32:02 PM
Good luck dude, i cant wait to hear about it all!
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on December 29, 2012, 07:35:47 PM
Good luck dude, i cant wait to hear about it all!

Thanks Wezzer!
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: zack42 on December 30, 2012, 07:09:38 AM
Good luck Damien - nearly on the other side!

Keep us updated and have a good trip.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on December 30, 2012, 01:54:09 PM
Good luck Damien - nearly on the other side!

Keep us updated and have a good trip.
Hey Zack!

Merry Xmas and a Happy New year to you bro! Thank you for your kind wishes! I am so excited and a little nervous now but I am 100% determined to see this through I tell you!
I just got an email from Jeremy today – he attached information on the Minibus as well as a cost certificate which was useful. It’s all real now!

How about you, hows your recovery going?
Damien         
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: zack42 on December 30, 2012, 02:39:02 PM
Recovery's going well thanks Damien.  I've been a bit lazy with the massaging so need to start up again - got a bit of scar tissue to get rid of although nothing compared to the glands and overall I'm really happy with the results.

I've been eating/drinking loads over Christmas so starting a new fitness regime in the new year.

All the best and even if you do get nervous, just remember Katarzyna is a great surgeon and will do everything to get the best results for you.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on December 31, 2012, 09:15:53 AM
Hey Zack!

Wow I am happy for your progress. I am sure you will also enjoy the fitness regime! Good luck, bro! I am flying out tomorrow at 6:30 (I know! Not necessary ideal but it was the cheapest ticket) which means I wont get to celebrate New Years Day so much, but hey – I don’t really mind. I then spend the 1st and 2nd in Poland before the big day on the 3rd. Will keep you posted. I took some ‘before’ gyno pics today, so that I can compare when I post the pics up after surgery. Gonna be fun.

Damien         
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: zack42 on January 01, 2013, 04:29:55 AM
Well you'll get a chance to have a look around Szczecin first then.  If you need something to pass the time there is a cinema in the Galaxy shopping centre.  I didn't go but apparently a lot of the films are in English.

Happy New Year by the way!

All the best.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: zack42 on January 04, 2013, 03:47:16 AM
How did it go Damien?
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: wezzer on January 04, 2013, 05:01:26 AM
Yeah Damien, did everything go ok? Hope it all went well, im looking forward to ur update
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on January 04, 2013, 08:40:46 PM
Hey Guys,

Oh man what an event! I am here now in hotel Ibis recovering well from surgery two days ago. Although I have not been able to sleep well for the past 48 hours - I am delighted with the progress. I recently learnt how to configure 'Data Packaging' on my phone so I now have un interrupted access to the internet. I tried hotel ibis wi-fi, but i was not able to log on to some sites.

Okay, so I met Jeremy on the 3rd, who by the way has been really helpful throughout this experience, at the Medical Centre in order to take a blood test. Jeremy is a friendly chap and knew how to put me at ease. We spoke mostly about the changing infrastructure of Poland and indeed Szczecin. ...Just something to talk about to calm the nerves. As the centre was busy, we went straight for the Ultrasound office and returned later for the blood test. Jeremy kindly drove me to and from the two centres before dropping me at the ibis. I was instructed to meet the cab at 14:40 to take me to Dr Clarkes clinic.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on January 04, 2013, 09:18:10 PM
Upon arriving at the clinic, I couldnt help but notice how clean and professional the centre looked and feel. I meet Dr Clark who took me through all the mandatory procedures - filling out form etc. She also covered all the aspects of the surgery whilst informing me of the risks. I was nervous but I felt ready. I was asked to change in a separate room, a room to which would later become my sleeping chamber for the night. Dr Clark made a few marking on my chest and led me to the operating room. I thanked my stars that I wore a decent pair of boxers! I was then introduced to an anesthesiologis who kept me at ease as she hooked me up to the anesthsia. I tried to keep my eyes open to calculate when the drug would hit but i was no good and i cant even remember drousing off.

I was awaken several hours later. I felt dizzy and very cold. I remember being placed on a chair and wheeled into my chamber where i fell asleep once more. About an hour later Dr Clark woke me up and informed me that the procedure when well. I had a bigger tissue on my LHS that needed extra care but all in all she told me that the operation was a success. I thanked her. The compression garment was very thightly wrapped around me and made sleeping difficult. The nurse made me some cheese and ham buns which I woolfed down instantly after my long day of fasting. Dr Clarke said her goodbyes and i was left with the most nicest, dedicated nurse ever. She made sure she checked on me every 30 mins throughout the night and morning. She gave me painkillers, antibiotics and glasses of water. She also helped me to the loo once too! Just great service! Despite this though, i just couldnt sleep. The material used for the compression vest did not agree with my skin. I just couldnt stop itching! 

Day finally came and I was greeted with a nice breakfast. I couldnt finish, mind. Still felt a bit light headed. Dr Clarke arrived and took me to the operating room to remove my dressing. I saw for the first time in 12 years a lovely flat chest. She told me she was happy with my progress and discharged me with a prescription. I bought my prescription - painkillers, ointment and antibiotics at  pharmacy two doors down and hopped on a taxi back to Ibis. I watched a few downloaded films on my laptop and fell asleep around 16:00 and woke up around 23:30.

I am seeing Dr Clark today at 11:00 i hope she will remove the compression garmet as I cant sleep. Lol!

Thanks for ur support guys! Picture will follow soon!
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: jakeyboy08 on January 04, 2013, 09:22:46 PM
Congrats mate,
Get some photo's up.

Jake
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: Poland2012 on January 04, 2013, 10:05:54 PM
After 2 and a half weeks I gave up with compression altogether as the swelling was so minimal by that point. However, for the moment you're going to have to put up with it.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: wezzer on January 04, 2013, 11:19:36 PM
I'm so glad it went well mate! It's all over now, you're gyno is gone! How did it feel seeing it gone for the first time? I imagine it's a bit of a mixed bag of feelings. That sucks about the vest, but you can always switch to the Macom one once you get back, maybe that'll be easier :) Post some pics if you can, would love to see the before and afters. How is the Ibis btw, and how is Sczecin in general? Like the shops and getting around and stuff?

Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: zack42 on January 05, 2013, 04:27:32 AM
Well done Damien and welcome to the other side!

Glad it went well for you.

You could get yourself a different compression garment?  I bought one from Macom - there is a discount code if you enter 'mybreast' at the checkout.  You will probably need one to wear underneath clothing etc anyway and the material is very different from the wrap that the surgery provides.

Good luck with the recovery and keep us updated.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on January 05, 2013, 04:32:33 PM
Sup Guys,

Cheers all for the nice comments. It really means a lot. 2 weeks for wearing a compression vest! Damn, well i have no choice! I have actually got a compression garment and wore it today with no problems. Will be waering this for the meantime. For some reason my laptop will not let me post messages and I will need to transfer the pics to my mobile before I can post them on here. Will do this first thing tomorrow guys.

Its such an amazing feeling. Knowing u dont have gynaecomastia any more.
Damien
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: zack42 on January 06, 2013, 05:56:41 AM
It certainly is a great feeling.

How are you finding Szczecin?
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on January 06, 2013, 12:05:02 PM
Hey Zack, Szczecin is really nice. I took several walks today around town and I am really enjoying this town. I love how the cheap the food is. There is absolutley no chance of starving over here.

I have had a bit of swelling on my LHS, and it will probably need draining. I am seeing Dr Clark tomorrow. Pics attached.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on January 06, 2013, 12:07:31 PM
So this is three days post op with a lot of swelling lol!
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: zack42 on January 06, 2013, 01:19:42 PM
Yeah it looks like you've got a fair bit of swelling there Damien.  Have you been wearing the compression vest?

It will, of course, go down with time anyway.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: wezzer on January 06, 2013, 04:08:49 PM
Yh that is quite a lot of swelling for 3 days post, has your vest been tight enough? Or is this normal for around this time?
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: r1 on January 06, 2013, 05:13:06 PM
My swelling is quite similar now wasnt that bad after three days but not too far off. The surgeon will drain that for you. Im going to ask the gp again next week whem have stitches out.
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on January 11, 2013, 08:40:31 AM
Hey Guy!

I am now finally back in the UK and I am so happy to be back as well! So my swelling had gone down a bit and it does not hurt as much as it used to. I had a reasonable journey back to the UK. A few sharp pains when carrying my luggage but nothing serious. I did wear my compression garment straight after operation for the days ahead but I might have not been tight enough. So I am 10 day pre op I have a few pictures I would like to upload but I want to embed  my pictures like how everyone else are doing it on this forum. How do I do it?

Damien   
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Post by: DamienUK on January 11, 2013, 08:46:18 AM
Also, I have notice a great deal of scar tissue forming under my nipple resembling gynae. I think that I will massage it a little but continue to wait until it heals before properly massaging this. Did any of you guys get tissue forming at this stage? I hope it will get better.   
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Post by: zack42 on January 11, 2013, 03:10:49 PM
Hi Damien,

Glad to hear you're back and the swelling is subsiding.  Don't worry I started to get scar tissue at the same time as you.

It is frustrating but remember it's a long process and it will get better with time.
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Post by: DamienUK on January 11, 2013, 07:13:36 PM
Hi Damien,

Glad to hear you're back and the swelling is subsiding.  Don't worry I started to get scar tissue at the same time as you.

It is frustrating but remember it's a long process and it will get better with time.

Thanks Zack! I will upload the pictures this weekend but for now I am going to be tight on the compression vest and wear it for a good 3 weeks. Thanks for your kind support, mate!
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on January 11, 2013, 07:24:59 PM
Okay so this was me before surgery:

(http://i47.tinypic.com/243exrn.jpg)
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Post by: DamienUK on January 11, 2013, 07:28:20 PM
Side Profile:
(http://i50.tinypic.com/ay3ha1.jpg)
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: zack42 on January 12, 2013, 04:52:46 AM
Once that swelling and scar tissue go you'll have an excellent final result.

Just be patient because it does take time.  Everyone says the recovery process is frustrating but we'll all get there in the end.

Keep going with that compression vest.
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Post by: DamienUK on January 12, 2013, 09:08:46 AM
Thanks Zack!

It has now been 10 Days since the surgery and I feel a little euphoric. I had a bit of a swelling on my LHS as Dr Clark informed me that the tissue removed was really large and caused a bit more trauma to the chest area than the right hand side. I was also told that I might have some indentation because of this. I can see the indentation forming as the swelling subside but I am hoping that it will get less noticeable as time accumulate. Also, Dr Clark did say that she can inject some fat into the area when the chest has healed so I am not really fussed. (Come to think of it; will she charge me for that?)

Below is the picture I took this morning at 10 Days Pre OP:     


(http://i47.tinypic.com/2j4zle1.jpg)
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Post by: r1 on January 12, 2013, 02:19:29 PM
Looks good mate. My swelling on the left side is just smaller than a golf ball and is fkid but feeling a bit firmer and the right side about half as swelled. Yours has down quickly did she drain it?
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: zack42 on January 12, 2013, 03:36:36 PM
You're bound to have swelling for a while but it will go down.  Just be prepared for a bit of a rollercoaster with scar tissue etc and remember it takes 9-12 months for the final results to be seen.  Everything in the meantime is just a journey and your chest will keep changing.
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Post by: wezzer on January 13, 2013, 02:46:16 AM
That is a massive improvement though bud! ANd I didn\t know she offered fat fillers for indentation
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: zack42 on January 13, 2013, 05:48:19 AM
Yes you're going to have great results once it all settles down.

Don't worry about indentation or anything just yet.  Just focus on letting your body heal and then review in about 9-12 months.  At that point you'll know if you want/need any additional work doing.
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Post by: DamienUK on January 13, 2013, 11:27:25 AM
Thanks for your support guys. I have to be honest; I got my GP friend to drain my swelling today. There was so much blood/lymph liquid/. He used a 5ml gauge and drained me 8 times with it on the LHS and once on the right. Why is Dr Clark having problems with the left moob? Lol! I feel flatter but I was advice that I need to wear the compression vest and gear up for tissue building. I will post pictures up next weekend.
I’ll do a weekly update. I think if swelling persists it should be drained surely?

Damien
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on January 13, 2013, 11:29:05 AM
That is a massive improvement though bud! ANd I didn\t know she offered fat fillers for indentation

I know right! But I will take Zack advice and wait several months to see first. Besides, I might have much cash this time around, lol!
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on January 13, 2013, 11:30:26 AM
Looks good mate. My swelling on the left side is just smaller than a golf ball and is fkid but feeling a bit firmer and the right side about half as swelled. Yours has down quickly did she drain it?

Haha thanks mate. No, but I drained it today. How are your healing? Have you drained yours yet?
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on January 13, 2013, 11:31:44 AM
Yes you're going to have great results once it all settles down.

Don't worry about indentation or anything just yet.  Just focus on letting your body heal and then review in about 9-12 months.  At that point you'll know if you want/need any additional work doing.

hahah thanks Zack! Will do!
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Post by: wezzer on January 13, 2013, 05:53:02 PM
Yeah defo wear your vest for the 6 weeks, it is the most important part of the healing process, you HAVE to do it! Make sure it's tight enough and just get used to it, 6 weeks isn't that long!

Let's hope the scar tissue won't be too bad!
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Post by: wezzer on January 19, 2013, 09:49:44 PM
SO damien what's the update? How is everything looking? You need to tell us how the whole experience was, being in Poland and stuff. Hope you type something up soon, im looking forward to it :)
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Post by: DamienUK on January 21, 2013, 03:31:53 PM
Hey Guys,

Sorry for the late post. I have been so busy with my new chest ;). So I am now 20 days pre op and I am finally staring to see clear progressive progress. The swelling on both my chest has dramatically reduced and I feel less pain and soreness each day. I have had to aspirate both sides 4 times to date and I have been wearing my compression vest 24 hours a day to date. I plan to now only wear my compression vest at daytime and sleep without it. I have, however, developed significant scar tissues underneath my nipples but I am keeping to my 25 mins a day of massaging.
I am feeling great guys! If you are considering gynaecomastia surgery – do it! I have absolutely no regrets.

Anyways;
Pics as promised: 

20 DAYS POST OP

(http://i47.tinypic.com/142zwox.jpg)
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Post by: DamienUK on January 21, 2013, 03:55:04 PM
Okay, a few pictures of Poland for you guys who will be going:

Blood Test Clinic: 
(http://i50.tinypic.com/6sfno7.jpg)

Prescription:
(http://i49.tinypic.com/2wd3h5i.jpg)

Hotel Ibis:
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2cr855x.jpg)
(http://i47.tinypic.com/f1bjtj.jpg)
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Post by: DamienUK on January 21, 2013, 04:07:02 PM
SO damien what's the update? How is everything looking? You need to tell us how the whole experience was, being in Poland and stuff. Hope you type something up soon, im looking forward to it :)

Hehehe, wezzer I thought I did on page 4 or is there something I have missed? :)
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Post by: wezzer on January 21, 2013, 04:21:40 PM
LOL, sorry, i completely forgot that you wrote that!
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Post by: DamienUK on January 21, 2013, 04:49:46 PM
LOL, sorry, i completely forgot that you wrote that!

hahaha not worry about it mate! I have posted some progess pics on page 6, bro!
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Post by: zack42 on January 21, 2013, 04:55:17 PM
Hey Damien, you're progressing really well.  Once that swelling goes down and the scar tissue dissipates you'll be 100% flat.

I'm nearly 3 months post op and still have some annoying scar tissue but as long as you're prepared for it to take time, it'll all come together in the end.

Keep up the compression as much as you can - it really makes a difference.

All the best.
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Post by: wezzer on January 21, 2013, 08:29:38 PM
Ur chest is looking awesome already mate, it looks great. I think if ur gna give up wearing ur vest full time, then I would maybe wear an underarmour vest during the day then wear the medical one at night while u sleep. U might aswell just do the compression right as you only get one chance at this.

Thanks for the pics, it's nice to see what things actually look like!
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Post by: Poland2012 on January 21, 2013, 09:13:41 PM
Any idea how much was taken out?
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Post by: DamienUK on January 22, 2013, 02:37:31 PM
Hey Damien, you're progressing really well.  Once that swelling goes down and the scar tissue dissipates you'll be 100% flat.

I'm nearly 3 months post op and still have some annoying scar tissue but as long as you're prepared for it to take time, it'll all come together in the end.

Keep up the compression as much as you can - it really makes a difference.

All the best.

Cheers Zack! Yes sir will do! I am really happy with the results so far! It's just such a joy being able to put on any top I want without thinking twice! :)
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on January 22, 2013, 02:41:20 PM
Yeah defo wear your vest for the 6 weeks, it is the most important part of the healing process, you HAVE to do it! Make sure it's tight enough and just get used to it, 6 weeks isn't that long!

Let's hope the scar tissue won't be too bad!

Hahah thanks wezzer, yes sir will do! Compression on!
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Post by: DamienUK on January 22, 2013, 02:49:13 PM
Any idea how much was taken out?

Hey Poland:

GP Aspiration: 40ml LHS 5ml RHS
1st Aspiration: 35ml LHS 5ml RHS
2nd Aspiration: 35ml LHS 2.5 RHS
3rd Aspiration (two days ago) 15ml LHS 1.5ml RHS

Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: Poland2012 on January 22, 2013, 08:54:16 PM
Sorry, I meant do you know how much gland and fat Katarzyna removed?
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: DamienUK on January 30, 2013, 05:36:10 PM
Hey Guys,

Hope you are all well? I am sorry I have not posted this weekend. I aim to post by the end of this week. Nothing massively to report, swelling has gone down but scar tissue and some level of nipple slanting is prominent but this was expected and I am going to keep massaging and to be patience.

@poland2012 – I was not given the amount taken from me. I did ask, but I suppose she forgot to get back to me.
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Post by: DamienUK on April 06, 2013, 11:55:43 AM
Hello All,

Hope you all well! I am really sorry for not updating this thread as I promised. I have no excuse other than enjoying the results of my surgery. It has been 3 months and 3 days since my surgery and I am really pleased with the results so far! As expected, my left chest has a little more to go as it bruised and swelled really badly after the operation due to the large glad that was removed. My right chest has healed real nice with the nipple in place. I am currently training and lifting weights to get my chest to where I want it to be. I anticipate it will be though but I am keeping my fingers crosses. I was able to ditch the compression vest after 1 month of uncomfortable use. After wearing it on and off after my surgery, I was encouraged by you guys to wear it 24/7. So I wore the compression vest for a further 3 and a half weeks 24/7. It was uncomfortable but worth it.
Here my chest so far. If you have any questions you need only ask.
(http://i46.tinypic.com/5ziplj.jpg)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/ht7dpy.jpg)
Damien

@goodbyegyno – I wore the Macome vest. I hope your healing is going well? You have made a right choice bro!

Wezzer, Poland2012 and Zack42 how you guys doing?
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Post by: wezzer on April 07, 2013, 05:46:51 AM
Great results mate, looks really flat! You're healing has gone super well!

What size Macom vest did you get btw? I know she says to get a size smaller than what you usually wear, so I'm just wondering if you did that because I'm stuck on which one to choose as I'm just borderline between medium and small!

How's everything else going though mate, what's it been like being gyne free? I've got two months until my op, I'm nervous!
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Post by: DamienUK on April 07, 2013, 08:09:32 AM
Hey Wezzer! I am glad to hear you are doing well mate! I am so happy that I went ahead to do surgery. It has changed my life immensely. The only thing with surgery is that you will need to heal after and that process itself made me a bit anxious as I really just wanted to enjoy my chest. I suppose I am not as patience as I thought. I can change in front of my friends with no hesitation or awkward excuses. I can wear any top/t-shirt/ tank top with no doubts. And sex has never been better!

I wore one size under for Macom vest. I am a large but wore a medium with no problems, mate. The material stretches nicely so you will get compression but you will fit in if you got a small.

You need not to be worried at all mate it is the best thing you will ever do! Two months to go! That time will just fly and you will be in Poland soon. How is your savings going?
Damien
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Post by: wezzer on April 07, 2013, 06:06:14 PM
Awesome mate, I'm so glad you're finally reaping the benefits of having a normal chest! I can't imagine what it's gonna be like to get changed in front of someone else, i really can't. Now you know what you've been missing out on all these years!

Personally, I've not thought to much about all the things I would be able to do after the surgery because I know that sometimes it might not look how you thought it would look after it's all healed and settled. A lot of people have said it's good to have 'realistic expectations', so I'm just not having any expectations, just in case!

Saving has been a struggle because the money I put away last month had to be used, so I've only got £330 away at the moment, and I'm putting away £500 from this month's and next month's pay, so that'll be £1330 in total.
After paying the rest of the op, I'll only have £200 to pay for the transport to and from the airport, the blood tests and scan, food and prescriptions. D'you reckon that'll be enough? I might have to borrow another £100 otherwise and just pay it back at the end of June.

What's it been like wearing clothes now, has it completely changed what you think about wearing?
Also mate, what places near to the Ibis were good to get cheap food and stock up on water and things like that?
Title: Re: Planning My Surgery with Ostrowska-Clark
Post by: zack42 on April 19, 2013, 02:50:25 AM
Looking good Damien!  Coming along really well there.

I'm good thanks - still a bit of annoying scar tissue which won't seem to go away but I don't think about it much because my chest is still so much better than before the op.

Glad to see you're doing good mate.
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Post by: dfinnegan938 on July 25, 2016, 06:20:12 PM
Anyone know Jeremy's contact details?? Great thread
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