Gynecomastia Support Forum
Gynecomastia Acceptance => Acceptance => Topic started by: Brdy64 on April 02, 2023, 05:20:02 PM
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I'm not there yet, I just seem to be changing still.
I have accepted the fact that I have boobs but I'm still scared that they will keep growing. I'm scared of just how big they're going to get. Even though I know there's nothing I can do about it anyway.
My choices in colors of clothes, namely shirts, has changed drastically. My interests have really changed. Where I used to paint Landscapes, barns, and outhouses I now catch myself painting flowers instead.
Half the time I'm an emotional wreck and I don't understand why.
I find myself enjoying conversations with the nurses and CNAs more than talking with my buddies at the center. That is really strange to me.
I guess the hormone stew I am experiencing scares me the most.
I have not found my zone, and I'm not quite sure where it's going to land.
I guess that's why we're hereš¤
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Since I have had breasts since my early teen years I have had a long time to adjust. It has been my normal for most of my life.
During the school years, I was constantly reminded that I stood out from the crowd with continual comments that I needed a bra or questions about my bra size.
After the school years and on to university and a career, no one said anything and it was easier to feel that I flew more under the radar. Since I was not forced to expose my breasts like in school "skins" teems, maybe no one knew the full extent of my breast development.
After those school years, the hardest part was knowing I felt best wearing a bra but feeling self conscious to do so. In a vacuum, without concern of others perceived judgement, I was fully OK to just wear a bra and forget about it. With age, concern about others diminished.
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Yeah, school was murder! After that flying under the radar while we could was grand. š
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I just came back from the men's room on the third floor.
(The first floor MR was being cleaned and everyone else loaded up the 2nd.)
But up in the third floor there was a LE meeting of the RRPD, Sandoval County SO and other LE agencies, all A-type males with enough testosterone to kill a heard of elephants.
I actually felt very uncomfortable around them, threatening and out of place.
Keep in mind I am a big time 2A type who loves the things that go boom and those that are quiet as well. So being in a lake of testosterone isn't unusual for me.
But it was odd to feel threatened by their presence.
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Taxmapper, I could see that being a problem for me when I was still working. I was an Engineer/Land surveyor.
In fact I was able to hide my "B" cups back then by just wearing an Orange vest and baggy shirt, but I didn't really fit into conversations with everyone at work, I would feel uncomfortable especially if we all went out somewhere for lunch.
I guess I am lucky now that I attend a day center instead of work. Lots of old people around that don't have much testosterone either, and about half the guys look like they at least have a little gynecomastia as well š¤
I don't really fit the mold here at the center, but they are getting used to me. š
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Wow.
I am a cadastral mapper for the assessors office so I am suppose to hold a position of knowledge.
So this sudden feeling of intimidation is an off feeling for me.
Im still creeped out from it.
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Wow.
I am a cadastral mapper for the assessors office so I am suppose to hold a position of knowledge.
So this sudden feeling of intimidation is an off feeling for me.
Im still creeped out from it.
Yeah, hope you fair okay š¤
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I think that everyone wants to find their zone. They want a circle of friends who want them in the group.
About seven years ago, I found out where I fit in. I had not accepted the fact that I was a woman who was pretending to be man yet. I transferred from the main hospital and took a job at the Breast Care Center. The staff there was almost entirely female accepted for the custodian who pretty much always kept to himself.
Even though I presented as male, I wore a bra, ladies button down blouses and slacks because they fit better than men's clothing. I also carried a masculine looking hand bag because my slacks and jeans either had little or no pockets. So between my obvious lady lumps and my androgynous attire, the ladies had lots of questions and to avoid office gossip, I would go to lunch with them, I would go with them for drinks after work and I was invited to other gatherings along with the other girls.
With years and years of having questions about my gender, I began to question it further. I felt safe and comfortable hanging with the girls. I found that I had so much in common with them. I was trying New things like mani and pedicures. I had nothing but compliments when I came to work with pierced ears (they talked me into it) with diamond studs in. Then covid came and I was non-essential staff so I worked from home. My wife and I continued to explore my feminine side. I was wearing skirts and dresses with heels around the house and getting quite good at doing it myself. And you all know the rest with me returning to work with a new name plate on my desk.
I found my zone when I found out who I really was.
ā„ļøSophieā„ļø
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I'm with Sophie in that I find myself talking more with the girls than I do the guys at the center.
We just seem to have more to talk about.
I find it hard to carry on a conversation with my buddies when the conversation keeps switching to: "Did you see that V-neck Sally wore today?"
They are gandering at the available cleavage while I'm looking for design ideas.
Not that I don't appreciate a nice chest, I even like my own. But spending 45min. talking about cleavage and nothing else is not very intriguing. It also makes me wonder, to some extent, what they say about me?
I am obviously stacked even though I dress very modestly.
I am however definitely a male in a slightly not so typical body. My emotions and interests have changed to something in between, but I have to identify as male to be truthful.
I'm happy for Sophie in that she found her zone. I can only hope that someday I can pin point where exactly I fit in.
On a side note, the weather is changing here in Texas. Today I think I'll wear just a T-shirt and pants. I want to be comfortable, even though I know I'll be the subject of discussion around the pool table this afternoon at the center.
I am who I am, the way God made me. I didn't do anything wrong, so I have not reason to hide.
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I have not found my zone per se. I tend to keep to myself and find peace in isolation more than a circle of friends. I find men more than not people in my age range of mid 30s to early 40s tend to only care about politics finance and general discussion. And women my age range have much more entertaining topics of conversation and can typically take a joke just as good as the guys for when my personality of dark humor or quick quips come to play for a quick laugh.
I feel before a wife and kid, I had friends I golfed with and went to pubs with and enjoyed company in. They were my zone. With wife and kid they took precedence and over time my sole focus has been catering to my wife and contributing to my daughter. Thereās not a moment we arenāt actively at a park or playing soccer or just goofing off or going over words and baking. They are my life. They are my zone. Itās why my concern about my breasts if they keep growing becomes the concern it is. And is also why this place I feel if ok to be cheesy, is my zone as well. Where I find anxiety in my chest aching or tingling giving indication either I need to put my bra on for support or they are growing as both situations tend to give similar feelings. And anxiety in swimming lessons Iām gonna have to partake in or soccer leagues where Iāll be on the sideline and running and if they grow more how thatās gonna go. Or anxiety in how my wife will see me if they get big as hers. Which hate to say but often Iāll see hers and be mad mine donāt look like that lol. But thatās why this place is my zone as well. I can freely express that and things and know itās a fun and safe space. We are here with the same issue and itās great to be here a part of the conversations.
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I think we have to keep finding our zone in life. Can we ever be truly settled? But as it pertains to the one aspect of our shared experience here for me, probably not. I've put both feet firmly in the water as it pertains to accessorizing for gynecomastia and perhaps I've done it recklessly or with too much vigor. In private I was open with my immediate family about why dad's drawer has bras in it and what it doesn't mean. That hasn't completely removed my wife's anxiety about what it could mean, but in general she's very accepting of my "underwear drawer". However, there are family and friends with whom I haven't been as open.
That doesn't mean I don't wear around them, it is just something that I feel I need to put out there with them. I think I would handle myself well if asked about it and I might have to, my friend's wife gave me a big hug the last time we were over and gave me that friendly back rub whilst doing it. There is zero chance she didn't know what was back there, perhaps that was her confirming? Anyhoo, it didn't become an immediate concern for her and it hasn't come up. But what about work trips? I think professionally is where I might struggle the most. 99% of the time I'm remote, but when I do travel it's usually with executive management. Ours is a small, boys club, company and I think I would get "othered" very quickly--especially given my role.
Cliff's notes version...I wear daily, I wear out, I have left my bra on top of the couch, and I have shopped for them with my wife online. At home, I am comfortable. Out and about I'm relatively comfortable. With friends, I think I can manage a conversation if someone were to say something. At work, the pits and perils of employment in a down economy put a severe damper on my ownership of my social non-conformity.
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Old lesbian woman look lmfao! Growing a beard or so would be nice but even with that Iād rather not. If I could get electrolysis I would.
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I have 100% acceptance. Took me awhile to get there. But I have noticed that no one cares that I have boobs or my bra strap is showing. They might notice but know one has ever said anything. I mean when you really thing about it, the way some people dress, have tons of tattoos and piercings, hair colored bright pink or green and so on. Seeing a man with boobs or seeing their bra straps isnāt really that big of deal. I donāt try and hide it much anymore. I have even been addressed as maāam. My wife always tells me Iām not a pretty woman but not a ugly one either. Thatās why some address me as maāam. Some of us just have that look as a old lesbian woman, as my friend puts itš¤£š¤£š¤£.
So yes, I have accepted it all. If I didnāt, it would probably drive me crazy.
I just canāt worry about my shape and my look...it is what it is.
Maybe if I could grow a mustache or beard that would help. But I canāt even do that.
Getting called "ma'am" happens to me all the time now too. I have been going with the flow lately.
Truthfully I would be confused if I saw someone like me too.
Learning to just say "what the heck" and wearing t-shirts and something comfortable like I am today has been difficult for me to adjust. Especially like today when another guy in a wheelchair just sat there and stared at my chest. Most of the people here at the day center are okay, but I have to remember that I'm in West Texas. Some will comment, some will stare, and I know one will reach out and grab a handful because he already had in the past.
But it's not my problem, I am how God made me. I'll dress modestly and accept it. What everyone else does is their problem (unless they grab me again) š³
I'm in and adult daycare center, and most participants are not there mentally anyway.
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My zone is somewhere on the rainbow. Not sure what part of it. My username tells all. Lately I feel like I'm free-falling towards femininity a bit faster than before and I am once again questioning.
Self acceptance for me involves much more than my meagre moobs, but yes, I'm there. I have totally accepted how I am, period. Just not sure where the journey will take me.
The advice and support I have received here so far has been invaluable.
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Yeah, I agree with Evolver. This forum has been invaluable. š
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I don't know if I found my zone but everyone on this forum has helped me in some way to accept my girls especially Sophie who has been a great help
All the women that know I have the girls and wear a bra for comfort are nothing but supportive
I guess i am lucky like that
Will the girls grow more who knows burni suspect as I get older they will either way I am here for the ride and will wear a bra until the day I die
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I guess I have found my zone. Twenty years ago, I considered surgery, but just could not justify the expense. Now, at age 72, I am what I am. Past the point of diminishing returns, right? Also, I have discovered that having boobs can be fun, sometimes!
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Yeah, having boobs can be fun!
I enjoy dressing the girls up and showing them off to the mirror.
I wouldn't wear my polo shirts unbuttoned down that far in public, but it's fun in front of the mirror š
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I don't know if I found my zone but everyone on this forum has helped me in some way to accept my girls especially Sophie who has been a great help
All the women that know I have the girls and wear a bra for comfort are nothing but supportive
I guess i am lucky like that
Will the girls grow more who knows burni suspect as I get older they will either way I am here for the ride and will wear a bra until the day I die
I too have found that the few women who know, all have been supportive and helpful and treat me as they would their friends. I suspect I may know more about their breasts than their partners.
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I have 100% acceptance. Took me awhile to get there. But I have noticed that no one cares that I have boobs or my bra strap is showing. They might notice but know one has ever said anything. I mean when you really thing about it, the way some people dress, have tons of tattoos and piercings, hair colored bright pink or green and so on. Seeing a man with boobs or seeing their bra straps isnāt really that big of deal. I donāt try and hide it much anymore. I have even been addressed as maāam. My wife always tells me Iām not a pretty woman but not a ugly one either. Thatās why some address me as maāam. Some of us just have that look as a old lesbian woman, as my friend puts itš¤£š¤£š¤£.
So yes, I have accepted it all. If I didnāt, it would probably drive me crazy.
I just canāt worry about my shape and my look...it is what it is.
Maybe if I could grow a mustache or beard that would help. But I canāt even do that.
I have actually found my zone finally. I have done nothing wrong and have no reason to hide.
Told my daughter this morning: "I love my boobs, I love to shop for bras".
I am finally at 100% acceptance.
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I think we can all tell from the frequency of your posts on this website that you've found a home. Wonderful that you have so much support for your journey and for the pleasure you're taking in enjoying your breasts. Yes, it is fun shopping for brassieres, imagining what they'll look like on your body... checking yourself in the mirror... feeling the fullness of your breasts in this or that brassiere or this or that shirt. Glad you found this website and chose to participate... I read your username and want to call you Birdy... I'll eternally be 42C which is also bizarre... but it is true. 8)
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I think we can all tell from the frequency of your posts on this website that you've found a home. Wonderful that you have so much support for your journey and for the pleasure you're taking in enjoying your breasts. Yes, it is fun shopping for brassieres, imagining what they'll look like on your body... checking yourself in the mirror... feeling the fullness of your breasts in this or that brassiere or this or that shirt. Glad you found this website and chose to participate... I read your username and want to call you Birdy... I'll eternally be 42C which is also bizarre... but it is true. 8)
Birdy is an okay nickname. My family actually calls me Yo yo (long story).
My California daughter is just in typical denial. I have seen it before in people over other subject matters. I should have talked to all my children about it years ago. She just doesn't want to see her "Dad" going through it.
But like I told her, I already have been all my life, it's just getting bigger is all.
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I think we can all tell from the frequency of your posts on this website that you've found a home. Wonderful that you have so much support for your journey and for the pleasure you're taking in enjoying your breasts. Yes, it is fun shopping for brassieres, imagining what they'll look like on your body... checking yourself in the mirror... feeling the fullness of your breasts in this or that brassiere or this or that shirt. Glad you found this website and chose to participate... I read your username and want to call you Birdy...
Birdy is an okay nickname. My family actually calls me Yo yo (long story).
The first thing I thought of was Peter Sellers in The Party getting on the PA and saying, "Birdy. Birdy Num Num!" ;D
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I think we can all tell from the frequency of your posts on this website that you've found a home. Wonderful that you have so much support for your journey and for the pleasure you're taking in enjoying your breasts. Yes, it is fun shopping for brassieres, imagining what they'll look like on your body... checking yourself in the mirror... feeling the fullness of your breasts in this or that brassiere or this or that shirt. Glad you found this website and chose to participate... I read your username and want to call you Birdy...
Birdy is an okay nickname. My family actually calls me Yo yo (long story).
The first thing I thought of was Peter Sellers in The Party getting on the PA and saying, "Birdy. Birdy Num Num!" ;D
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I don't know if I found my zone but everyone on this forum has helped me in some way to accept my girls especially Sophie who has been a great help
All the women that know I have the girls and wear a bra for comfort are nothing but supportive
I guess i am lucky like that
Will the girls grow more who knows burni suspect as I get older they will either way I am here for the ride and will wear a bra until the day I die
"All the women that know I have the girls and wear a bra for comfort are nothing but supportive"
Most of the women I have contact with are in the medical profession. I do live in West Texas, and therefore "the bible belt".
I find a large part of the women I am in contact with are supportive of the fact that I wear a bra. Those tend to be the ones that help with showers, dressing, etc... (I'm in a wheelchair after several strokes).
But the others are the type that look at your like a sinner for "needing" a bra. Something I have no control over, and I also am larger chested than most of them anyway.
The level of acceptance within society is being divided by regions, or where we decide to live.
I am pleased to hear that where you live your have found support.
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I appreciate your vitality which comes across in your posts here. Given the health challenges you contend with every day your spirit is admirable. It seems you have excellent medical support which is heartening. Of course, living in the "bible belt" is not for the faint of heart, unless you're inclined to thump the bible yourself. As a person who hasn't found it easy to fit in I would definitely feel out of step in that environment. Fortunately, I've created a life for myself in a more progressive environment where my idiosyncrasies don't cause an uproar. Of course, I don't flaunt my breasts... at least not anywhere but HERE... :o
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Resigned, accepted, embraced, enjoyed. My GP wants me to see a endocrinologist... nah. ;D
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Acceptance is a far better solution than let an endocrinologist mess with your body.
A bra is a simple highly effective way of coping with breasts as most females will attest. My hunch is even more women would sing the praises of this garment if they only had the gumption to get measured and end up in the right size and style.
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Please reconsider the Endocrinologist
You can stay ā in your zoneā but gynecomastia can have several root causes.
The simple lab draw can save your life
If the prolactin level is up and testosterone is down an MRI is warranted to see if itās a tumor in the pituitary gland ( in the head and curable)
That Doc can also order an Ultrasound of the testicles to see if it is a cancer, also curable.
A mammogram can also be done to detect a breast cancer in a male breast it is exceedingly rare
I have gone this route and I have yet to find the source of this condition
My concerns of cancer slowly being resolved as the MRI yielded no tumor and the likelihood of breast cancer is very slim, mammogram in early May for me. The US of the testicles shows no problem. Once this is done it becomes primary hypogonadism, simple apoptosis. The T level is so low that a normal estrogen level is dominant enough to cause gyne.
I am not on any meds that could cause it.
Please reconsider, I have survived twice the cancer diagnosis.
Bob
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Please reconsider the Endocrinologist
You can stay ā in your zoneā but gynecomastia can have several root causes.
The simple lab draw can save your life
If the prolactin level is up and testosterone is down an MRI is warranted to see if itās a tumor in the pituitary gland ( in the head and curable)
That Doc can also order an Ultrasound of the testicles to see if it is a cancer, also curable.
A mammogram can also be done to detect a breast cancer in a male breast it is exceedingly rare
I have gone this route and I have yet to find the source of this condition
My concerns of cancer slowly being resolved as the MRI yielded no tumor and the likelihood of breast cancer is very slim, mammogram in early May for me. The US of the testicles shows no problem. Once this is done it becomes primary hypogonadism, simple apoptosis. The T level is so low that a normal estrogen level is dominant enough to cause gyne.
I am not on any meds that could cause it.
Please reconsider, I have survived twice the cancer diagnosis.
Bob
I have been down the breasts cancer route already. I had a lumpectomy and chemo for it.
I get an annual mammogram to further check for anything suspicious, and also seen by many medical specialists.
Pretty much the "cause" of my gynecomastia is still suspect.
Weight could be effecting it as I am overweight, but I was not when the gynecomastia started in my teens.
Every other test they performed leads to more head scratching. It just is not apparent why.
"Acceptance" is exactly what my medical personnel is prescribing since all others avenues have been addressed.
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Please reconsider the Endocrinologist
You can stay ā in your zoneā but gynecomastia can have several root causes.
The simple lab draw can save your life
If the prolactin level is up and testosterone is down an MRI is warranted to see if itās a tumor in the pituitary gland ( in the head and curable)
That Doc can also order an Ultrasound of the testicles to see if it is a cancer, also curable.
A mammogram can also be done to detect a breast cancer in a male breast it is exceedingly rare
I have gone this route and I have yet to find the source of this condition
My concerns of cancer slowly being resolved as the MRI yielded no tumor and the likelihood of breast cancer is very slim, mammogram in early May for me. The US of the testicles shows no problem. Once this is done it becomes primary hypogonadism, simple apoptosis. The T level is so low that a normal estrogen level is dominant enough to cause gyne.
I am not on any meds that could cause it.
Please reconsider, I have survived twice the cancer diagnosis.
Bob
I have been down the breasts cancer route already. I had a lumpectomy and chemo for it.
I get an annual mammogram to further check for anything suspicious, and also seen by many medical specialists.
Pretty much the "cause" of my gynecomastia is still suspect.
Weight could be effecting it as I am overweight, but I was not when the gynecomastia started in my teens.
Every other test they performed leads to more head scratching. It just is not apparent why.
"Acceptance" is exactly what my medical personnel is prescribing since all others avenues have been addressed.
This is a major point of contention with me. Doctors even today still have little actual understanding of things medical.
Oh yes, we've come a long way from leeches and blood letting, but medicine is still caught up in 19th century ideas on how the world works.
In some instances they are hell bent on seeing things through the skeptical nd pragmatic view with a healthy dose of post modernist template applying.
they simply cant seem to grasp that there is a "holistic" (all over body) aspect to things. they are trained and are stuck int he singular symptom-cause effect. Similar to the miasma theory. (smells cause disease).
If one starts to read history in depth you start seeing that the origins of such may be far more complex and that falls into categories not easily defined. This upsets the medical establishment greatly.
As of late, with all the political BS and the whole Budweiser debacle, there is going to be a heavy pushback by society over anything "trans" or "men having boobs" thing.
ignorance is king.
Unfortunately tribalism is something that prevails and no amount of talking or convincing will stop it.
When approached (I have had only a few incidents myself) I just usually take it in stride, and deflect. For me, it works.
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I can agree with your assessment of the state of modern medicine.
However I come from an era where the older docs had a real penchant for listening and understanding . The modalities and surgeries ( i.e. transphenoidal hypophesectomy of the pituitary gland) has been a great treatment for prolactinomas. Studied and worked at the Cleveland Clinic in the 70ās; that being said I would not let a modern MD perform one on me .
They are not educated like the ones from the 40ās and 50ās. I had a nearly 50 year career in healthcare and I am not impressed with the quality of the new generation ( I have a myriad of anecdotal stories, too many to cover here)
There are other relevant pathways to understand what has happened to us with real fixes
I understand your comments, essentially I did all the hoop jumping and yet I fall into the category ofā we donāt know why Bob has breastsā
There are a few simple blood tests that will give an answer to our reality with a fix but I agree the vast majority of us will receive no solid answers to why we are in this club
I consider it worthwhile to explore at least as far as the preliminary hematology test that gives a definite cause. If it is not rock solid into one of these curable pathways then I agree that it would be better toā Acceptā.
Regards,
Bob
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Personally I believe my Ashkenazi gene mutation that I inherited has much to do with my gynecomastia.
It was apparently the cause for me developing breast cancer. There has been plenty of research in that area and the increased risk of breast cancer. Enough research that if you are a carrier of the mutation they watched you very carefully for further cancers.
I don't know if any research has been done to link the mutation to gynecomastia, but abnormal breast tissue growth in men runs rampant in my family. In my generation there are two of us. Apparently many other relatives had the same problem years ago.
Needless to say, with modern medicine, anything not 'text book' cause and effect is not investigated.
Truthfully I rather enjoy having breasts. I love them. I am happy that it was meant to be. As for the gene mutation and cancer risk, there is nothing that can be done about that anyways. Life goes on.
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This gives rise to an aspect that through my study of things philosophical and esoteric, I have found many multiple references tot he "third" gender within Europe, a fourth, fifth, sixth and even seventh gender within various other cultures that give specifics to them, and a large amount of references to hermaphroditism.
(Why I have made mention of them.)
The situation today is based wholly within ignorance and full on control of thought by the "powers that be" as it were.
The volume of mentions about men with female aspects and visa versa is deep and heavily populated.
Even looked upon with great desire in certain time frames as a result that there is a specific trend that "hermaphrodites'" (now intersexed...) were considered to be closer to God, and a "more prefect being" than the average joe.
There is also evidence that some time around the later part of the 19th century, there was a "puritan Revival" of sorts that was more based on misreading of and mis application of biblical and theological constructs that gave birth to the modern template that has been projected to our culture as where there are only a strict binary sexual creation and everything non-conforming is pure idiocy, and mental disorders.
(IMO) there is way more to this than previously believed.
I could go on, but I also think that what has been happening is more than "awarness" but a cultural shift away from these tenants that were brought to us via radio in the 1990's.
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Judaism identified 6 in the Talmud. I fit perfectly within one of those described. "Born male to later develop female attributes".
The Rabbis make mention that for all applicable laws I would be considered male.
This 1600 year old text blows a hole on the modern day notion that gender is 'male/female cut and dry'.
So I have found peace in my condition. Someday the science will catch up with the facts surrounding it as soon as politics removes itself from the equation.
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Some very liberal rabbis recognise 8. I think the extra 2 are for people who undergo surgical transition after puberty, rather than pre puberty surgery to assign a binary sex where male and female anatomy coexists at birth
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Some very liberal rabbis recognise 8. I think the extra 2 are for people who undergo surgical transition after puberty, rather than pre puberty surgery to assign a binary sex where male and female anatomy coexists at birth
I'm a bit more traditional in thinking. We all know on this forum that physical attributes manifest themselves on some individuals. It's within God's plan if it manifests itself.
As for those that ''decide' to alter their bodies I am not in agreement as our bodies are 'loaned' to us from God.
But I also am not one to judge as a 'personal walk with God' is of course 'personal'.
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I'll second that
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They also explored me genetically for the Ashkenazi gene. ā¦ not there.
But thereās a small chance of breast cancer in males ( less than 1% I think)
Ergo the mammogram and breast ultrasound next week. Worth looking into as the onset for me was rapid.
Normal chest to 6 inches differential in just shy of a year. That was fast. My odds of a CA Dx is low since the beta HCG was negative. The extreme drop in testosterone was way faster than normal for an oldster like me. Females in the 15-35 year old range have a testosterone level twice that of mine.
As far as the gender discussion goes I agree with all the above; it also can be seen to be true in art from around the world from antiquity . Hermaphrodites etc. I can count 6 genders also
Regards
Bob
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Finding your "zone", or where you personally fit in is such a vital step in acceptance.
The same estrogen that created these mounds of glory on your chest is doing much more behind the scenes as well.
You will see changes in your attitude and ways of thinking, and others around you will see it too.
Where accepting that leads you is a rather personal journey.
To some it simply means avoiding sad movies and songs around friends.
Perhaps to others, they will find conversation with the ladies to be very rewarding, and lose interest in conversation with the guys.
There are all different levels and changes that might occur based off your own particular hormonal stew, and that's okay.
Acceptance means accepting your yourself as well as gyno.
And there are as many "zones" available as there are people with gyno.
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I reread my post from April, since the topic's come back on top. Not much has changed in regards to my place with acceptance, however something struck me in your post JAG:
Justagirl
"Perhaps to others, they will find conversation with the ladies to be very rewarding, and lose interest in conversation with the guys."
Of this statement, I continue to almost yearn for conversations with women. Not "women's chat" per se, but just connecting with them more than I would have 5-10 years ago. I was never exclusionary, where the guys go one way and the ladies the other and na'er do they meet, but it strikes me how much more my brain wants me to participate with women in conversation.
The latter doesn't fit, however. I still appreciate and maintain solid connections with my guy friends.
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I reread my post from April, since the topic's come back on top. Not much has changed in regards to my place with acceptance, however something struck me in your post JAG:
Justagirl
"Perhaps to others, they will find conversation with the ladies to be very rewarding, and lose interest in conversation with the guys."
Of this statement, I continue to almost yearn for conversations with women. Not "women's chat" per se, but just connecting with them more than I would have 5-10 years ago. I was never exclusionary, where the guys go one way and the ladies the other and na'er do they meet, but it strikes me how much more my brain wants me to participate with women in conversation.
The latter doesn't fit, however. I still appreciate and maintain solid connections with my guy friends.
That's very interesting š¤
I my particular case I would abandon the conversation with the guys in the living room and excuse myself to the kitchen with the women at house parties. I have done that all my life, even when I was still pretending to be male.
I just found the conversation so much more rewarding for me.
Like I said, there are as many different "zones" as people. š