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Title: Please Look For Brownman(Updated Pics)  
Post by: brownman on April 04, 2006, 01:52:36 PM
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/1820080426.jpg&s=x11

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Post OP

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Well there it is the last two are 7 days, sorry for the darkness i will try to lighten them up but its hard to get a good photo for me i have to do it without people knowing..


I need some Answers

Does it look good?

Will the tensor really help ?

I have a tensor and it is a pain in the fucking ass it is useless and keeps sliding down at work.. Do i really need the tensor or am i fine just massaging now ?

i can probly take the bandaids off but i havent due to paranoia and im not sure if i am supposed too, the white one i put on myself as i peeled a bit of the other.. anybody know when they took those bandages off? (nipple one)


ALSO is a slight skin discoloration on the chest normal or is this a bad thing ?

I also feel really sick lately not sure if its the flu or the surjury.

Please COmment as best you can..

Keep all comments here please
Title: Re: Please Look For Brownman Post Op 1 week
Post by: brownman on April 04, 2006, 02:36:57 PM
I see some improvement, it seems to be getting a bit worse looking some days or maybe its just me.. i cant afford to do a touch up but i think he got the gland.. with all those scars (two on the sides  and two by the nipple) im assuming he did excision (Dr. Law). i See him again on the 13th he said to wear the tensor for 6 weeks.. i find this brutally hard to do, i have wore it for 3 and it has been slipping off as i walk and stuff.. its a piece of crap im gonna try to buy some small undershirts and wrap those.. i don't have alot of money to spend as i blew it all on this.. any extra i have and i need to start saving for gas/books for school as i already paid the tuition and everything else..

Any tips on the tensor appreciated, i will try to get better photos soon i am going to be taking these down in a bit as i don't want people i know to see them.


Title: Re: Please Look For Brownman Post Op 1 week
Post by: crow on April 04, 2006, 02:55:15 PM
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I see some improvement, it seems to be getting a bit worse looking some days or maybe its just me.. i cant afford to do a touch up but i think he got the gland.. with all those scars (two on the sides  and two by the nipple) im assuming he did excision (Dr. Law). i See him again on the 13th he said to wear the tensor for 6 weeks.. i find this brutally hard to do, i have wore it for 3 and it has been slipping off as i walk and stuff.. its a piece of crap im gonna try to buy some small undershirts and wrap those.. i don't have alot of money to spend as i blew it all on this.. any extra i have and i need to start saving for gas/books for school as i already paid the tuition and everything else..

Any tips on the tensor appreciated, i will try to get better photos soon i am going to be taking these down in a bit as i don't want people i know to see them.




It looks smaller but the photos are dark and hard to really tell........But their sems to be improvement....

All the best 8)
Title: Re: Please Look For Brownman Post Op 1 week
Post by: brownman on April 04, 2006, 04:49:11 PM
ok i will wear it tight as darn lol


i am positive he had to have done some exicison i have the scars for it.. and he did do the nipple scar as well as the arm pit scar on each side. Just buddy said the dr. told him he did not do excision so i am worried if he did it for me, i see the DR again on thursday (april 13tH) i will wear the tensor more now.. and i see him again anyway and will double check

So the compression makes the skin attach itself to the muscle? darn i already have not worn it for up to two hours some days 4 today because all my clamps broke... tomorrow i am wearing a really tight undershirt + the vest hoping it stays on that way i cant get more metallic clamps tell tomorrow night.. assuming the health supply store has them (specialty store) no other shoppers or pharma plus had it.

i will get better photos when i can, i am happy with it but i think ihad too high expectations.. i am gaining wait sadly can't jog or anything yet/
Title: Re: Please Look For Brownman Post Op 1 week
Post by: goaliesuperstar on April 04, 2006, 06:22:24 PM
looking great brownman!
Title: Re: Please Look For Brownman Post Op 1 week
Post by: politik1 on April 05, 2006, 12:52:38 AM
Looks great!

I agree with BillBoy in that you should know what the doctor did.

The two scars on the side are from lipo and tissue excision is done from behind the nipples.  I really advise you to look this stuff up, going into surgery blindly is not a smart idea.

When I went for my consultation I did enough research to understand EVERYTHING the doctor was going to do or could do.

In any case, much improvement.

Congrats
Title: Re: Please Look For Brownman Post Op 1 week
Post by: brownman on April 05, 2006, 04:36:29 AM
i did too but the problem is the DR said he did excision for "Buddy" and that wasnt the case.. my sheet said Excision i have a scar under each areola so i think he did do it but i will ask thursday to clarify.

the tensor is a pain keeps breakin! didnt wear it two hours today again had to re-wrap at work and it slides i dont know how to combat this its frustrating..

DR said to wear a tesnor for 6 weeks i cant afford an underworks atm soo i asked my sis to go look for more clamps at the health supply store..


i wish i had asked to see if he provided a vest, the video he showed me said most dr's do as well as the book and his pamphlet i just assumed.
Title: Re: Please Look For Brownman Post Op 1 week
Post by: Grandpa Bambu on April 05, 2006, 11:30:43 AM
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The problem is the DR said he did excision for "Buddy" and that wasnt the case.. my sheet said Excision i have a scar under each areola so i think he did do it.

Dude....

I think you have misuderstood what buddy is saying....

The way I see it is Dr. Law said that he was going to do both excision and lipo on 'buddy'. However, during the procedure, Dr. Law took it upon himself not to do the excision as buddy would 'look' better without the peri-areola scars. Which, by the sounds of it, the Doc told this to buddy after all was said and done.

I would be savage if my Doc agreed to do excision and then during surgery,  took it upon himself to decide for me that I would 'look' better without peri-areola scars.

Dr. Law should make it very clear to his patients that he may not perform excision if he deems in not necessary during surgery.

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As for your tensor... Personally, I think 6 weeks is overkill my man. I wore mine for 2 weeks. Think about it... how long does a cut take to heal? A couple of weeks right? I can't see how it would take any longer than that for disturbed chest flesh to readhere. Just my opinion!   ;)   But then agian... everyone heals at different rates. I guess it's best to follow your Doc's instructions....

Yeah, the tensor wrap that the hospital gave me kept on sliding down on me also. It was also very difficult to put on. SO... I bought a Dale 'Ab Binder' (http://www.dalemed.com/prod/abdominalbinder.html). The Ab Binder is very easy to put on and take off. It it fully adjustable and there is minimal slippage! I paid $50 (CND) at a local medical supply shop. I realize that this product was designed as an abdominal tesnsor. However, it also works well for post-op Gynecomastia patients as a chest tensor!   ;)      

John.
Title: Re: Please Look For Brownman Post Op 1 week
Post by: buddy on April 05, 2006, 01:20:52 PM
You are correct GB. I knew immediately after the surgery that only the lipo was done. It looked real good right away, so I was really happy that the Dr did not to the incisions. However over time, (when all swelling went down), the glands started to become noticeable.

I agree that the DR should have explained before that he could make the decision to not do incisions depending on the lipo results on the table.  I would have immediately told him to do it, rather than risk going through another surgery.

Now I risk alienating the Dr if I continue to harp on this -- especially if I expect him to fix me up right this next time.
Title: Re: Please Look For Brownman Post Op 1 week
Post by: Grandpa Bambu on April 05, 2006, 03:55:18 PM
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I agree that the DR should have explained before that he could make the decision to not do incisions depending on the lipo results on the table.  I would have immediately told him to do it, rather than risk going through another surgery.


Exactly! You are the 'paying' customer. The patient tells the Doc what he wants. Not the other way round! If JCF did that to me, I would have reamed him out big time.

Now, if it was a 'life' or 'death' decision that the Doc had to make, that's a tad different. However, to 'decide' on the patients behalf on what would be 'more acceptable' to him is a tad presumptuous!

This would be good question for a pre-op patient to ask his PS during the consultation.

John.

Title: Re: Please Look For Brownman Post Op 1 week
Post by: brownman on April 05, 2006, 04:45:41 PM
I will, i bought three new tensors

i think six weeks is totally overkill too, i figure the skin can adhere even without the tensor can't it ? or is this impossible?

and will it automatically adhere with compression or can it adhere awkwardly ? i don't think this is possible like having it adhere slanted or something..?

I boughgt new tensors with metal clamps hopefully they will work they working well right now, stayed up all day and slide or move.. its such a pain im gonna wrap it insanely tight tomorrow as well.




the skin will adhere normally too won't it? like it wont unpaste if i take the tensor off for too long at a time ?????? i think i am worrying for nothing here.

I don't know i am pretty positive Dr.Law did excision on me as i have scars under the nipples.. i will post more photos when i can of a lighter photo as per the first two

John is  it safe to assume that he did excision if i have two big areola cuts? i twas super-flat the first day i took the tensor and bandage off.. it feels flat when i tensor it and if i flex i can feel my muscle right behind the skin.. but i think their may be some gland left but i am assuming he removed a goo d portion.. its hard to tell even at 8 days i will check it tomorrow again.

Thanks for the link Bambu i think i will just stick to the tensors..

Is ist possible for the skin to adhere even without compression though? like if the tensor falls off or moves down and isnt compressing fully and i let it stay like that for a few hours it will still adhere won't it if i keep it wrapped as much as i can?

damn i am worrying i really hope he did all the excision and stuff, i can't afford the time off to do it again or the money.. and it will be hard to explain during school!~

Title: Re: Please Look For Brownman Post Op 1 week
Post by: brownman on April 05, 2006, 05:29:24 PM
Right side
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Left Side

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Notice the weirdness of the nipple it has a dent above it or something it looks weird too me (look above and slighlty to the left

Also i have some weirdness on the side i think its scar tissue shown here - There is some weird item where i am grabbing i don't think this is gland since its in an awkward spot it does go right up to behind the bottom half of the nipple though so i am hopings its just a bruised/scar tissue

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Day 8 post op view
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From these can you tell if the gland is excised? i feel its partially excised compared to the above

He said three weeks to work out again, think i can do it in two ?
i feel good now and wanna start running i am up on the weight scale and my gut seems bigger too me, it stretches out like a madman and is more obvious now so i gotta start work on it

How long did you all wait before you went back to the gym for some light weights/just getting back into the grove of it
Title: Re: Please Look For Brownman Post Op 1 week
Post by: Grandpa Bambu on April 05, 2006, 06:31:36 PM
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John is  it safe to assume that he did excision if i have two big areola cuts?

Dude... even if
Dr. Law didn't perform an excision, I wouldn't worry about it. Your chest looks good to me my man.

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Thanks for the link Bambu i think i will just stick to the tensors..

Okay, no prob!

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Is ist possible for the skin to adhere even without compression though?

Prolly, but why take the chance Dude.

John.
Title: Re: Please Look For Brownman(Updated Pics)  
Post by: goaliesuperstar on April 05, 2006, 07:21:29 PM
agreed with grandpa, looks great, making me anxious for when i go under the knife :)
Title: Re: Please Look For Brownman(Updated Pics)  
Post by: brownman on April 07, 2006, 05:53:16 PM
10 days post op and i just went to the gym tonight lol

i bench pressed 45's seemed a little hard but then i removed the tensor for the other 40 mins of the workout and wow

i bench pressed 45 + 20 on each side for 175 lb's i left benching 195 so i was happy i didnt loose much, i probly could of done 195 too just not as well as i had previous to surjury.

I went to the bicep curls and did 50 lbs only got 8 but then i did 40's and got 10 and 10 i left doing 50, 50, 50 so i was a little dissapointed here..

My workout buddy told me i looked thinner but didnt figure it out, i guess some people didnt notice my gyne. he is also my best friend so maybe he just didnt think i did this, i never told anyon the actual surjury except my parents and older sister told lies to the rest.... the same lie Muscle damaged from working out..

It felt so good to lift the weights and it didn't hurt at all no discomfort or anything and i think it will help adhere the skin if my chest grows a little

All my scar tissue is gone i have some sag a slight one when i look down but this is just loose skin and it is already decently tight it just looks a little fatty but when i flex and push it is all muscle.. I have some weird item that can be shown in one of the photos i think its scar tissue it works up from the left lipo scar by the arm pit to just behind the nipple.. at first i thought it was gland tissue but i think its just scar tissue as it starts at the lipo area and works to just under/below the lower half of the nipple on the left, the right side has a similar build up near that lipo scar.

Nipples are healing nicely

odd sensation when i drink water or anything really quickly as it drops down my throat past the chest area, i think the area is just super-sensitive also being rapped in a tensor all day

I think i will hit the gym again sunday


Think it will hurt me much if i remove the tensor for an hour to hour and a half for my workout session?> its quite hard and probly bad for me to work out with it on

i love the look in a sweat shirt and sihrt now almost flat but muscley and defined working out all those years paid off overnight :D

im 80% happy with it so in a few months i think as the skin naturally tightens up and i get bigger/loose the gut it will look really good!

Looks normal now, that last photo looks good ill have more soon

oh and the discoloration seems to have dissapeared or it is really invisible
Title: Re: Please Look For Brownman(Updated Pics)  
Post by: politik1 on April 08, 2006, 01:41:40 AM
Your progress sounds amazing, and from your pics there seems to be a great improvement - makes me want to get this procedure done sooner.

Do you think you may be hitting the gym a bit too fast though?
Title: Re: Please Look For Brownman(Updated Pics)  
Post by: brownman on April 08, 2006, 03:29:34 PM
nah i feel fine i even did 4 sets of benching

pre surjury i did 195 10 times then 185 10 then 175 10 etc to 155 or so


that day i did 175 8 times or so 165 8 times then 155 and i feel great today, i would suggest just waiting tell your nipple/scars feel fine stretching and you should be good.

Mind you i never requied painkillers after the 2nd day so i gues sgo at your own pace.

i worked out my biceps afterwards i plan on going back tomorrow tod o abs, and biceps and legs.. then work on some cardio
Title: Re: Please Look For Brownman(Updated Pics)  
Post by: brownman on April 13, 2006, 04:16:44 PM
tesnsor/vest free now! dr said it no longer required as the skin is snug when i flex/normal walk
Title: Re: Please Look For Brownman(Updated Pics)  
Post by: starscreamy411 on April 15, 2006, 03:46:54 AM
can I have your doctors contact information?
Title: Re: Please Look For Brownman(Updated Pics)  
Post by: brownman on April 15, 2006, 08:12:14 AM
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Title: Re: Please Look For Brownman(Updated Pics)  
Post by: KingCobra on April 17, 2006, 07:05:58 AM
Congratulations on getting the operation done.  You look absolutely fantastic.  The good doctor did an incredible job.  However....

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10 days post op and i just went to the gym tonight


Definitely not a good idea my man.  Looking at your pre-op pictures, it's clear that the Dr. took out alot of tissue from your body.  When I went with Dr. Fielding he told me to wait a good 3 to 4 weeks before going back to the gym.  I waited 4 weeks and then went back to the gym.

Initially you definitely want to go lighter as your body has suffered a trauma.  Whether or not you're actually pressing those weights is a different story, but putting a 175lbs. strain on your body only after 10 days is definitely not good.  

Secondly if you've been doing it for years - you're not going to lose everything with a break of even 2 months let alone 3 - 4 weeks so take the rest then jump back in.  

After the first week of light weights I was at 90% of my normal routine the following week.  With that said good luck to you and all the best towards a speedy recovery.
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