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Acceptance / Re: What Is It About Wearing A Brassiere That You Like?
« Last post by Pendulums on April 13, 2024, 12:18:44 AM »
Three reasons: Support for my breasts, I like the feeling and I like to be in contact with my feminine side.



Same here. 
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Acceptance / Re: Other stuff, maybe due to estrogen, that we haven't discussed yet.
« Last post by Moobzie on April 12, 2024, 11:52:06 PM »
The "musky" male scent (not b.o.) is an attractant for females.  Like women's scent is attractive to me.
Biology at work.
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Acceptance / Re: Other stuff, maybe due to estrogen, that we haven't discussed yet.
« Last post by Evolver on April 12, 2024, 10:24:18 PM »
I have a close female friend who knows ask me how I looked at women. I had to admit my first thought was not in a sexual manner but their hair, makeup, clothes and how they fit and how she wore them. She laughed. She said, you aren't trying to bed them, you're checking out the competition!
*blush*

Your reply to your friend describes my thoughts exactly! Reading about her reply to you is a real wow moment for me too. Competition? I've never thought of it in those terms before! It's true though, isn't it, even to the extent that we sometimes think to ourselves, "Oh, her bra doesn't fit properly. I do way better!" or "Where did she get those boots?" or similar. 
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Acceptance / Re: Other stuff, maybe due to estrogen, that we haven't discussed yet.
« Last post by Sophie on April 12, 2024, 11:35:12 AM »
Here I was thinking I was the only one! Granted, I may have carried it a bit further than most of you would wish to do. However, these were all things I have been doing most of my life.

As a happily married woman of transgender experience I can say that I'm 90% lesbian. I love my wife and I am attracted to women. There is one thing that I am attracted to about a man🙄. Anyway, in my opinion, I think that it is completely normal that none of us is 100% either way. 

I think that its important that we explore and experiment to discover things that we like and don't like. There are so many things to do that are completely reversible if you find that they don't work for you or you find that you don't want the hassle. Things like getting your ears pierced, shaving your legs, plucking your eye brows in a feminine shape, getting your nails done ( I would recommend NOT doing a gel coat at first).

This goes double for experimenting with clothing. All you have to do is not wear something if it doesn't work for you. I don't wear a push up bra every day. However when I feel like I want a little more cleavage or lift, I have a couple in my top drawer ready to impress (or start the jealousy train lol).

We all hav different modes and estrogen has soooooooo much to do with it. It's ok to explore this and build or back off, depending on how you feel on any given day.

I was also one who hung out with the girls. It was where I was safe. I think that is what drew me to my jobs that I love, working with an all female staff at the Breast Care Center. 

❤️Sophie❤️
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OMG! I thought this was only happening to me! I have been docile in a feminine way for a long time. I have never been aggressive, much to my detriment at times. And like several here have stated, I do not enjoy being "trapped" within a group of men. And as far back as I can remember, I find I put up a defensive shell similar to women; looking for escape routes and protecting chest and groin. These last two have increased as my chest has increased in size. I do feel much more comfortable and safe around women. Less threatened. More accepted.

I have a close female friend who knows ask me how I looked at women. I had to admit my first thought was not in a sexual manner but their hair, makeup, clothes and how they fit and how she wore them. She laughed. She said, you aren't trying to bed them, you're checking out the competition! She admitted that she has sensed a feminine aura about me at times and had wondered did the mental go along with the physical and that's why she asked. 

And I too have become aware of men's musk over women's. Not in a sexual way. As was stated earlier, I sense the presence of a man in a way I never did before. And sometimes it's scary. I can almost read his intentions. Women practically sneek up on me now. I don't sense them in the same way I used to. I have discovered I "think pink" more often than I used to. I pay attention to clothing and shoes more. Fashion means something to me in a way it didn't before. I am not sure if this is a result of having to dress my chest or due to what caused my chest in the first place. Both I suspect. And like others, I pay attention to my nails. I do wear them slightly longer than men but not as long as women. And to break a nail IS THE WORST! During COVID I did experiment with longer nails and found out fairly quickly that it doesn't take much length to inhibit the usefulness of your hands. One time at a self serve gas pump I inserted my debt card in the pump and was unable to pull the card out owing that the length of my nails prevented my fingers from firmly grasping the faces of the card due to the depth of the card reader employed by the machine and the length of my nails preventing my fingers reaching the card. I finally had to get a pair of pliers to retrieve my card! Grasping anything small was a chore with long nails. If small enough it would hide under my nail as I held it! While annoying (and a little bit fun) that's when I decided I needed slightly shorter nails to be functional. 

I do find that as time has gone on, I am experiencing more feminine issues and experiences my male counterparts have no idea about. It's a little secret I keep to myself. 
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Estrogen has a funny way of creeping up on changes that are outside of the physical.

For me the biggest thing I can pin on estrogen dominance was my attraction to women in a sexual way. I blame this on the libido collapsing from estrogen dominance and sex just not being a thought in mind where it was rampant prior to. But more so, my attraction shift from noticing no longer drawn to women in a sexual thought but an admiring way. I found my interest in women went from arousal to admiring.

Other areas I can pin on estrogen dominance has been my emotions, nail care and grooming habits primarily the shaving of legs and under arms consistently.

I also notice I feel more intimidated around men. If at the gym I let guys grab weights I was going to grab even if I was there first. If at a bar grabbing food and having to wait a moment I feel a little uneasy being by myself and if a random guy just sparks conversation where I used to just boastfully add to any topic I feel I’m more shy.

I feel when estrogen dominates a wave of calm and peace is over an otherwise testosterone driven body and it allows for seeing things in a much clearer perspective and opening one up to experience and explore things they otherwise never would have cause they’d be too busy worrying bout it being “gay” or “sissy” or being made fun of in some other stupid ridiculous male bravado way.
I had this experience before that I posted on regarding a LE seminar in our building.
When all the SWAT guys were in the men's room, I literally felt like a subjugated piece of meat that had to hide.
The level of testosterone could be smelled in this.
Aggression for me now comes from deep thought rather than spark of the moment. but it still happens from time to time.


I am finding and now expressing my desire for lighter colors, and less desire to "go and concur" the world.
Estrogen has been a part of my life since puberty, and the presence of testosterone fueled actions were always sensed as threatening and aggressive. I have always avoided "hanging out with the guys" for that very reason. You can even smell it on them as a pungent musky odor. 

It's funny how the hormone balance effects the body scent. 

Birdie 💖
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Acceptance / Re: Illusions?
« Last post by TikTak on April 11, 2024, 04:54:53 PM »
Gotgyne, just like for you, only the wife is important.
Friends, family, their insights are important to me only for my personal comfort:
it is always better not to be the object of unhealthy interest.
And if they should already say something there behind my back, think something, then burn them to hell.
My wife once, it was twenty years ago, happened to say something unkind. Back then, my problem was still smaller. I dared to strip to the waist on a hot day, to work in the garden, assuming that, after all, I was among loved ones. Well, and I flunked, probably on the occasion of some other problem.
When my breasts grew really big and I started to despair a little, my wife was very supportive, saying that it was a dispute unworthy of attention.
Once, even when she wanted to do well, she knocked me off my feet, stating that "it's good that in this house someone will finally have a nice bust" :)
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Acceptance / Re: Illusions?
« Last post by oldguy on April 11, 2024, 04:12:57 PM »
Everyone in my family knows I wear a bra and why. They all know I have boobs. Like my wife as always said...they are really hard to hide unless I dress like  a slob.
Almost a year ago I joined a gym and have a personal trainer. She helps me with my diet and exercise program. I have lost the 25 lbs. my doctor told me to do. Thinking my boobs would go away. I am 5-10 1/2 and weigh 170 pounds now. After all of the diet and exercise I gained 1 inch in my hips. 43 inch hips. Lost 5 inches in waist now at 34. Lost 1 inch in my bust now at 44. Boobs stick out more then ever.☹️.
I wear sports bras at the gym and people still look at my chest.
Doctor tells me I still have them because of my hormonal imbalance and genetics.
Just crappy luck. I accept my boobs..but would prefer not to have them.
I get it.  I am recovering from total knee replacement.  Second in 16 months.  I'm down 43 lbs from last surgery.  Still in PT, so I wear exercise pants to appointments.  Those keep falling down, which is a pain.  Don't wear any support to the sessions, because they would create headlights.  Still, even when on my back, for icing, I will notice a glance.  Fortunately, my wife is there, so only that.

Heading out for walks is different.  I wear a tight sports bra and layer.  Still, even I can see them.  So what, I'm feeling great.  I can deal with that.
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Acceptance / Re: Other stuff, maybe due to estrogen, that we haven't discussed yet.
« Last post by WPW717 on April 11, 2024, 01:04:33 PM »
I can relate to these remarks in a positive way and also have noticed them in myself. My trajectory to gynecomastia was though estrogen dominance for a long period as my T levels fell to zero. No kidding. I was also losing weight in a healthy fashion too so any T was aromatized to estrogen. T E ratio for many months was measurably reversed to estrogen dominance. Through this group I have learned much about support, garments, family & friends. Especially about myself and the changes the estrogen highway can make. Having no libidinous thoughts any longer brings me in line with all of the remarks by Evolver, Taxmapper, Dudewithboobs and others. I essence I have become an uncut eunuch. It’s an interesting perch to sit on and observe the world and myself. Could not figure why my breasts still felt ‘ growth’ with no sex hormones of any kind. Oh yea, prolactin! MRI showed a Prolactinoma, so tenderness and slow growth persisted. Finally the Endocrinologist recognized the risk of osteoporosis in me and the danger of Testosterone therapy in me and has prescribed low dose estrogen to start next week. This ought to be interesting as I re enter the estrogen highway. If any feminizing effects are to occur I am sure the effects on my psyche will be minimal if not welcome.  I ,too,  have been more comfortable around women having worked as an RN for 43 years. The male macho aspect of life was also experienced in the U S N for a tour in the 60’s. The ability to sense the     
  ‘ smell ‘ is real too. I have experienced this before.
I will keep the group posted on the outcome of this new avenue. Should be interesting to see if a libido of some sort returns.
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Smell is definitely something I pin to estrogen dominance. I know it was figurative in terms of smelling the testosterone but I feel I can legit smell a man when nearby or just in talking to a friend pick up on their “musk” in personal scent I noticed awhile ago after a long run I no longer have a for lack of better words, odor. And found I can often go most of the day without even realizing I’ve yet to put deodorant on. And when I do sweat it’s a much lighter smell. 

But definitely understand the aggression coming from thought rather than reaction now. Emotions I’ve become accustomed to processing them instead of presenting them in the moment. My brain just often feels in a fog and more calm when something otherwise would upset me. 
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