Author Topic: Dr. said I don' have it but... Also, questions about Kleinfelters.  (Read 11033 times)

Offline kenyo

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I have reasons too for suspecting Kleinfelter's syndrome only they are too embarrassing to say.

If you can produce semen and have a sex drive it means that you can pretty much rule out Kleinfelter's. A lot of sites on the internet make it seem like Klienfelters is responsible for a large percentage of gyne cases, when it is one of rarest causes of the condition.


You don't have any real gyne (gland) but you have a high body fat % for a skinny guy and this gives you a pudgy apperance and that is what people are making fun of.I suggest you pay a visit to this forum instead. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=10


Offline worriedyoungman

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If you can produce semen and have a sex drive it means that you can pretty much rule out Kleinfelter's. A lot of sites on the internet make it seem like Klienfelters is responsible for a large percentage of gyne cases, when it is one of rarest causes of the condition.

Hmm when they say people with kleinfelter's can't have children, does that mean they can't produce semen at all or just produce semen that's well, defective? But anyways lol, good to know.


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You don't have any real gyne (gland) but you have a high body fat % for a skinny guy and this gives you a pudgy apperance and that is what people are making fun of.I suggest you pay a visit to this forum instead. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=10

Yeah you are right, I am a pretty skinny guy with a pudgy appearence. So that means if I continue to lower my body fat % I can probably get rid of the fat on my chest? I know everyone says that loosing weight won't get rid of Gynecomastia but that only applies if you have gland right? So those with little or no gland and just a lot of fat should be able to get rid of it with proper diet and exercise?

I had thought that the manboobs were just from fat so I went on a diet and high intensity cardio which helped me loose a lot of weight(and muscle too unfortunately) that is until I found out here that you can't get rid of gyne from loosing weight, which really discouraged me from continuing. So are you saying that if I build more muscle and lower my body fat % that I can probably fix it then?

Offline manic91m9

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have to say you could possibly have a small amount of glandular tissue but seriously nearly everyone does! its normal and if u go to a water park u will see a hundred people the same or worse than u who probably dont have a clue. however in your photos i dont think you are as light as u say you are? you look like you have a bit of fat there. i think if u went to the gym more and improved your diet you wouldnt have any trouble ataining a good body without surgery.

Offline worriedyoungman

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Ah everyone has given me so many different answers, I guess the best thing to do is get a second opinion from another doctor but personally I feel that I have it. How do you feel what's gland and what's fat? What does gland feel like, is it hard? If so how hard is it?

Offline gabbyhey

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Here's how you figure out if it's gland or fat.  Press your finger against your stomach.  You feel that little bit of fat?  That's what fat feels like.  Now, use your finger and press it against your nipple and move it around the nipple.  If you feel something other than that fat feeling it's gland.  I'm doubting you'll find anything because you don't have much at all gyne there to begin with.  If you pinch the breast area and you feel something hard beneath the nipple, it's probably gland.  It can be one solid mass or it can be diffused.  As for hardness, it varies, but it usually isn't like a rock.  Hope this helped.  And by the way, yes going to a doctor is your best bet.  Always better than trying to find a solid answer here.  We all have different cases of gynecomastia.  I'm someone who had a moderate case of gyne and I look at your chest and scratch my head wondering who would have made comments about it to you?  It looks fine to me.  But, like it's been said, if it bothers you that much you need to do something about it for your own mental health.

Offline oyelad

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for good reason.  they mean exactly what they said:  the person has it, a mild case, AND they think it hides well.  at that point i tell people they just have to decide whether they think they can live with it or not.  i have a fairly "mild" case, and it screwed things up close to as bad for me as any severe case.  there is a difference between having a mild case and not having it at all, whether you recognize it or not.  i also look for certain contour details that might be lost on you.

didn't say it was wrong to say that they have a mild case, i said it pretty much has the same effect as saying "you have it." When has "you have a very mild case, don't worry about it" ever made the thread op just up and leave and go on with their life? Guess it's probably happened before, but never have i seen it.

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instead of 80% not understanding that, since we can tell by the cases on our own frontsides, i'd say 90% of us probably do. 

edit:  now wait a minute.  i assume what you REALLY mean is not that the pecs reside IN the chest like you mistakenly claim but that they're physically separate from the tissue above them in which gyne forms.  but whether i'm giving you too much credit or not, a blunder like that hardly positions you to go calling other people morons.  fess up, you're not blatino or jake under a different name now, are you? 

no, most do not. have you not seen threads where the person has no traces whatsoever of gyno and there's always a few people that will confirm their worries without any merit at all? I'd be willing to bet that if posted a picture of Brad Pitt's chest on this forum there'd be at least one or two "yes, you have it" dipshits.

Don't exactly know what you're trying to say bout the pec muscles thing... i figured that saying pec muscles are in the chest would be enough of a description.

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somehow you think we can't possibly factor that in, and as if i didn't know what either a hunched overweight or normal figure looks like.  i'd bet in most cases they're trying to make you see something they can already feel without pictures anyway.  it's possible for a pretty large gyne mass to almost hide if it's flat enough.  gyne cases vary in the z axis too, not just the x and y. 

not you specifically, of course, but yes, i don't believe most people can factor it in. How many times have you seen someone say "from the X pic it looks like you have it but the others im not sure... please post more pics" the X pic being the one when the person is hunched over and the rest normal posture....?

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including yours again?  i wish it were better, but, based on the kinds of reports i've seen come in, as imperfect as pictures are compared to an exam, i think i'd take the diagnosis of most non-professional gyne sufferers here, who have examined more cases and have more first-hand experience, over your average general prac.  i await the day when that's no longer true, but we're not there yet. 

Assuming the doctor knows what gyno is... then yes, even my opinion. nearly every person that has posted pictures on this site saying that their doc said that didn't have it didn't have it.

and just for the record even if a said person has gyno but it's so mild to the point where noone would ever readily notice it let's just say that they don't have it. I can't remember the statistics, but i remember reading that around 40% of males have some form of gyno. If this is true I believe the definition needs to be more discriminating and rule out people that have a few particles of tissue in their breasts.

PS i aint either of those guys you've mentioned.

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do the checkup, but don't panic yet, a lot of those symptoms are pretty general, especially the depression, that's at least 90% of the guys with gyne anyway. 
* a man is more than a body will ever tell
* if it screws up your life the same, is there really any such thing as "mild" gyne?

Offline worriedyoungman

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Hi disk, I'm sorry to hear that you might have it as well. If you get yourself checked out can you let me know how they test you for kleinfelters and how it went? I'll be going to get checked up when I go to Canada as the doctors here are pretty crappy. Also what would be the right type of doctor to see for this? An endocrinologist?

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Hi disk, I'm sorry to hear that you might have it as well. If you get yourself checked out can you let me know how they test you for kleinfelters and how it went? I'll be going to get checked up when I go to Canada as the doctors here are pretty crappy. Also what would be the right type of doctor to see for this? An endocrinologist?

Hi,

It's all about taking a blood test and it will be examined to see what kind of chromosome's you have ;o) I first went to a "normal" doctor and they sent me to further studies for a doctor specialised in genetics. The specialist already had strong suspision about the syndrome and the results of the blood tests confirmed the diagnosis.

I went to doc when I was 19. I got worried because I was so late with puberty.. Didn't have any beard and the testicles were so small.

It's not end of the world.. :) The best part of the diagnosis was that I got the hormone medication. I'm now 34 and have some beard and also muscle mass :)

So if you're worried about thing it might be worth while testing rather than worrying about it.




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Offline achtungminen

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I've become worried about klinefelters too.  Pretty sure i'd end myself if I had it.

One question:  WTF is the difference between male pubic hair pattern and female?
« Last Edit: February 19, 2007, 06:24:23 AM by achtungminen »

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Pretty sure i'd end myself if I had it.
obvious strong advise against.  never leap to early conclusions anyway, hypo may have a thought or two if he sees this. 


Offline tragik

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yours look exactly like mine. Im starting to work out everyday and hopefully see if they get any better.


 

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