Andropause

[Dudewithboobs]

I was googling around on why I may be experiencing continued breast growth contrary to my hormonal balance seemingly in the good levels based on energy, function, mental aspects and such compared to that of when I was informed of hypogonadism when my levels were quite low. And came across Andropause. 
Finding it can begin in the 30s for a lot of men but more common in late 40s near 50. But zoning in on my age of 38, i find:
“[color=var(--m3c11)]Andropause, or male menopause, is the gradual decline in testosterone production that can begin in men as young as 35. The average age of onset is around 38 years old. “[/color]

[color=var(--m3c11)]By this measure I think I’m gonna ask my NP in March about if this may be why I’m noticing positive aspects of hormones seemingly being in balance and continued breast growth occurring and issues with where weight is going. [/color]

[Parity]

Could very well be.  Keep asking the questions.

[WPW717]

I think you will find enlightenment by reading about ( primary ) hypo-gonadism and testosterone therapy for men in your age group. 
I am older at 75 and rode a rapid rollercoaster with huge peaks and valleys in a short time frame. Andropause was not gradual for me. The thrust of this is for you to know how that therapy will affect you in the future. Especially in the fertility department and the long term need to continue its use. T therapy was contraindicated for me and fertility wasn’t an issue so I have no personal knowledge or experience in its use. I want you to be familiar with the trajectory for you and that future choice’s ramifications 
Stay strong 

[Dudewithboobs]

Hey thanks, I learned about hypogonadism last year actually. I took Red Reishi supplement for joint pain after a bad bout with tennis elbow and runners knee that would not go away. Runners forum I’m on suggested it and I tried it. It worked when other things didn’t. And kept taking it for awhile. I began having hormonal issues and had them before so figured it was just regular routine of the body doing what it had done in the past. But it was a bit worse than times before. To a point my wife made me go to the NP and get my levels checked. 
Labs came back with a note on the body indicating Hypogonadism. It was a funny word to me but then found out it isn’t so funny lol. 

My NP and urologist recommended taking T but I wanted to do natural options first and they have seemed to work. Except in some areas that continue to cause problems. My follow up with my NP is next month and if things continue I plan to ask about if supplanting t is wise or not 

[WPW717]

Good for you being pro active 

Implications for fertility are large

[gotgyne]

Yes, andropause is real. In my case it started at about age 45. Which troubles me most is not my breast growth but the prostate enlargement (BPH). Because of the drippling after urination I needed panty liners at 50 and now at 65 I have to use the "Always Discreet pads long" since some months. I'd never leave them out. Feeling secure, be it at home or in public, is most important for me.

[AlfaQ]

I understand the need for security having completely wet myself in a supermarket queue. It was a lot more humiliating.than having a bulky pad between my legs, something that you soon get used to. Having now had my prostate removed I now get free incontinence products for life.

[WPW717]

Tell me how to do that
I love saving money 
I had a prostatic surgery that went south and use plastic pants and pads
Two failed drug trial and 3 surgeries later I am having minimal success with detrusor Botox injections biannually.

[AlfaQ]

Sorry to hear that.  I had robotic surgery.  Pelvic floor exercises have helped with incontinence and problems are now minor. Pads are available free if required in the UK post treatment to eligible patients.  

[WPW717]

Rats, not here in the US

[Evolver]

Sorry to hear that.  I had robotic surgery.  Pelvic floor exercises have helped with incontinence and problems are now minor. Pads are available free if required in the UK post treatment to eligible patients. 

I was diagnosed with PCa in early 2015 and had the gland removed June that year. I built a good rapport with my urologist during the biopsy and diagnosis phase and trusted him with my surgery even though he did not do the robotic method. It wasn't entirely successful, and I needed follow-up radiation to the prostate bed six months later. I was pretty dry leading into that, but as the years progressed, I started to leak more and more. Radiation results in erosion, apparently. Kegels worked for a while, but eventually I got to the point of needing to take more drastic action because I was losing around 200ml a day and it was difficult to manage socially. I had an ATOMS sling (do your own research!) inserted 18 months ago and I only lose around 20ml a day now, managed with liners.

Pads or liners here (Australia) aren't free, but they're pretty cheap.

Unfortunately, my leakage seems to have increased in the last few months and my sling is maxed out, so I don't know what the future holds. In the meantime, my PSA is rising, and I am officially experiencing what's known as biochemical recurrence. Hormone therapy is next. The prospect of hormone therapy (in the form of androgen deprivation therapy) is the reason I joined this forum - looking for others who already had moobs and faced the prospect of them growing further due to chemical interference. 

I'm only 62. 😕
    

[WPW717]

Did a lot of robotic prostatectomies
As a scrub, circulator and assistant.

Mine was for BPH mild and overactive bladder, old TURP method. All went well and was well until months later I hemorrhaged from the prostate bed. I chose that method as the cost was less and I know and worked for decades with the surgeon.
The bleeding was controlled by electrosurgery, but I healed with a lot of scarring at the bladder outlet . This obstruction was treated with laser ablation and went well. Overall the outcome was aggravating the overactive bladder outlet. Went to 2 trials of cholinergic drugs and they provided poor results. Urologist stated the  detrusor Botox injections were an option. Have had good success with this, back to minimal leaking. Especially after the right dosage is dialed in. Needs repeating every 9-11 months for me. Medicare hates it because Botox is expensive.