fore warned

[raven3]

Here is my question/suggestion.
  with an average of two thirds or more of the male population having this occur at some point in their life,and the teenage years being the time for most, then why is it not covered in HS health classes? It seems to me that letting the boys know about the facts about this condition, could save a lot of mental and emotional distress
 , y'know the "fore warned is fore armed" approach. 

[headheldhigh01]

maybe it makes too much sense. 

the statistics you hear about so many people getting it i think are an exaggeration.  if the guys i knew had it, they didn't have it even close to severe enough or long enough to give it a second thought.  i don't think a slightly itchy nip should count. 

i'm split on the health class idea, i think it should be mentioned, but there's a lot of potential for teasing.  on the other hand, if they can cover homosexuality intelligently, maybe they can handle this.  the people i think need to know about it however are the p.e. teachers.  they're in a position to spot it and deal with it where and when it needs dealing with. 

[Grandpa Bambu]

Naw dude, with the Net being mainstream for quite a while now and everyone having access to the Net (home, school, Internet Cafe's, a friends computer etc...), don't you think that the sufferer would prefer to learn/research the condition in his own 'private' time.

Think about it my man, 99.9% of what it covered in Health Ed the student probably already knows anyways... In addition, many guys get the condition a few years prior to any HE classes are introduced...

I would assume that most educational professionals do not even know what Gynecomastia is, let alone 'thinking about' discussing the condition in a HE class...

Another issue that 'should' be discussed, at length, in HE (or another class) is Parenting... I mean C'mon, the educational system prepares us for most of what life can throw at us with the exception of baby rearing/parenting.

GB...

[Redman88]

I've always thought the statistics must be very exaggerated, I've only seen 2 maybe 3 people with severe gynecomastia like mine. I know most people learn to hide it really well but for me and some of the people here that is extremely hard.

[Paa_Paw]

The initial premise of this thread is Not only a valid one, But actually a very good one in my opinion.

In the course of application, I think it will lose a lot.

By the time I entered High School, I was a qualified first aid instructor so I tried to get out of taking that class. Sorry, because the class covered "so much material besides basic first aid", I was not allowed to do that. It was taught in sexually segregated classes by a gym instructor. He was working from a script and had no idea what he was talking about. 

The problem with having such a matter presented in a school class is the fact that the class may be conducted by a "certificated" teacher instead of a health care professional.

If the Health classes in school were to be presented by people who actually know something about the human body, I think the original idea is very good.

[BadCaseGyno]

Well, the fact of the matter is that only around 2% of normal adolescents have some form of Gyno, and <1% of those cases is noticeable through a thin T shirt. There's tons of other conditions affectning adolescents that gyno really isn't important.

[joltera]

really? 1% I know my gyne is noticeable through a thin shirt and my case is minor mainly because I have low body fat. hmm that makes me feel even more unlucky.

[BadCaseGyno]

really? 1% I know my gyne is noticeable through a thin shirt and my case is minor mainly because I have low body fat. hmm that makes me feel even more unlucky.

Well, think of it this way. Chances are you're going to have some serious medical condition that will alter the course of your life eventually, whether it be gynecomastia, cancer, severe acne, obesity, etc. In terms of gynecomastia, you and I are extremely unlucky because this condition is so rare, but looking at the big picture we are not really any less lucky than the next guy,

[Paa_Paw]

Please tell me on what planet only 1% of the young men have Gynecomastia.

Here on Earth the condition is much more common. It is so common if fact that many health care professionals consider it to be within the range of "normal" in many cases.

Obviously many of us do not feel that it is "Normal."

[headheldhigh01]

i think that 1% would have to be severe cases.  if you included the mild and transient cases you might get to 10-20% as an inexact guess. 

[BadCaseGyno]

Please tell me on what planet only 1% of the young men have Gynecomastia.

Here on Earth the condition is much more common. It is so common if fact that many health care professionals consider it to be within the range of "normal" in many cases.

Obviously many of us do not feel that it is "Normal."

I'll correct myself. 1% of all men (if that) have some form of noticeable gynecomastia, as in you can see it. Walking around, I've seen hundreds upon hundreds of men in my entire life, not one of the men I've seen have had real, noticeable, gynecomastia, but that's just my experience. I've seen a few middle-aged men with slightly swollen breasts but nothing really out of the norm. Adolescents, on the other hand, is where the condition is least common. Being an adolescent, I hang around a lot of adolescents. Again, in the hundreds of normal adolescents that I know (which is a fair control group), not one of them has gyno, so I'd guess in adolescents noticeable gynecomastia is much below 1%.

The people who say men with gyno can be 30% or even 60% are the same ones perpetuating the lie that teenage gynecomastia will go away on its own.

[Paa_Paw]

I and all the other males in my family are proof enough that the condition does not always regress. Then too, there are all the men who frequent this site; they also attest that theirs did not regress.

We are not a bunch of abnormal people, we cover a rather broad group at one end of the normal scale.

Some estimates put the number of men who have visible and/or palpable breast enlargement at 30%. Others will tell you that the number is larger than that.

The truth is that if you have it, 100% of the people you are directly concerned with have it if you consider yourself to be a normal human.

If you consider yourself to be some kind of freak, then I guess you are the only one.


Realistically, if the condition was really all that rare do you think this site would exist?


I hope that no one thinks that I am making light of this condition. It can truly be the source of severe emotional trauma. I know this all too well because I was once where you are now. The main difference is that you have been born into an age where it is possible to get effective surgery to get rid of it. The modern surgical methods have only been around a little over 20 years.

Accept the condition for what it is, an embarassment and nothing more. If it troubles you, Save up your coins and get rid of it. This is not only one of the most common procedures these days, it is also one of the safest.

[joltera]

really? 1% I know my gyne is noticeable through a thin shirt and my case is minor mainly because I have low body fat. hmm that makes me feel even more unlucky.

Well, think of it this way. Chances are you're going to have some serious medical condition that will alter the course of your life eventually, whether it be gynecomastia, cancer, severe acne, obesity, etc. In terms of gynecomastia, you and I are extremely unlucky because this condition is so rare, but looking at the big picture we are not really any less lucky than the next guy,

well that sucks cause I've had gyne and severe acne all through adolescents so i guess I am super unlucky

i do feel lucky however that I am not dead, in war, basically have the freedom to do what I want, have a job, and have friends cause these problems are probably more common among regular people then gyne or any other devastating medical condition.

[joltera]

Please tell me on what planet only 1% of the young men have Gynecomastia.

Here on Earth the condition is much more common. It is so common if fact that many health care professionals consider it to be within the range of "normal" in many cases.

Obviously many of us do not feel that it is "Normal."

I'll correct myself. 1% of all men (if that) have some form of noticeable gynecomastia, as in you can see it. Walking around, I've seen hundreds upon hundreds of men in my entire life, not one of the men I've seen have had real, noticeable, gynecomastia, but that's just my experience. I've seen a few middle-aged men with slightly swollen breasts but nothing really out of the norm. Adolescents, on the other hand, is where the condition is least common. Being an adolescent, I hang around a lot of adolescents. Again, in the hundreds of normal adolescents that I know (which is a fair control group), not one of them has gyno, so I'd guess in adolescents noticeable gynecomastia is much below 1%.

The people who say men with gyno can be 30% or even 60% are the same ones perpetuating the lie that teenage gynecomastia will go away on its own.

Id say generally you don't see it because the people who do have gyne hide it well. I know If I didnt make an effort to hide mine it would be very visible in normal clothes. I always wear a tight undershirt and usually shirt that is not one solid color..works pretty well..but the second I throw on a plain white T and nothing underneath...

[Grandpa Bambu]

There's tons of other conditions affectning adolescents that gyno really isn't important.

Really.... G is a trivial issue?

Bwaaaahahahahah.... dude what have you been smoking?  Gynecomasita is a brain twisting, confidence killing, life altering incarceration... It can also lead to suicidal thoughts/action...     and you say it "really isn't important"...  You may want to rethink that!

GB...