I agree there are risks involved with surgery. People can die under the knife but if your young, live a healthy lifestyle then there is a minute risk of death. But yeah there are plenty of bad cases of seen on here from bad surgeons, agreed!
Unfortunately you basically have three choices with gyne
- Accept it
- Anti estrogen's, within a small amount of time
- Surgery
There is no shame in accepting it, at all! But i dont agree with the notion that if you elect to have surgery you are somehow weak minded. Ive spoke to hundreds of lads post op, who've experienced huge lifestyle changes after the op, im not saying its going to turn people into alpha males. But for some lads it improves their social lives tenfold.
But yes unrealistic hopes are a real problem, and on the flip side ive spoke to a fair few unhappy with surgery. Surgery certainly isn't for everyone, but id recommend it to anyone who's reached their breaking point.
Hi Thetodd,
I've worked in the group healthcare business since 1979, at the software and data end, consulting, designing systems, analyzing results. One of the things we did was customer (patient, member - pick your preferred term) satisfaction. It is approximately inevitable that there will be a high percentage of dissatisfaction (unsatisfaction?) of surgery done for psychological reasons.
First half the guys posting here asking if they have a problem, don't really appear to have much more than a technicality, at least to me. Prior to reading this forum I wouldn't have even believed most of these guys have gyne. The extraordinary small growth, invisible to everybody but the person themselves and the surgeons, but not visible to "the common man" (or woman), causes a massive psychological fear and shame speaks to a different problem, a cultural belief that is not accepting of any body variations. First the women were set up to hate their bodies about breasts too big, too small, too pointy too round too whatever it is or isn't. And their hips, thighs, face, chin, nose, ears, eyes, hair, legs ("who wants the woman with the skinny legs?") and everything else is imperfect. Now the men are following the lead of "every body is too different to be acceptable". Instead of people seeing half the bare-chested male actors on TV having some degree of gyne and saying "Oh, I'm okay" as they see all these guys with bigger breasts than they have.
Looking at old pictures of Ramakrishna, a well known Yogi, it is easy to see he has one sided gyne as male chests are typically exposed in traditional dress. As a Shiva devotee he might have very well said he was personifying the combined alchemical marriage hermaphrodite form of Shiva (The Hindu god Shiva is often represented as Ardhanarisvara, with a dual ... with gender diversity such as Ardhanarisvara, Wikepedia )in which he has combined with the female Goddess and become one being with phallus and one enlarged breast (half man half woman sideshow style). He wouldn't even need to say so, others would see it as well. In India they can easily be holy men while in the USA they became sideshow freaks.
The degree of body shame we have here in the USA, UK and other similar cultures appears to be rather self destructive and causing of much ill health. This whole acceptance and expectation of body shame is the problem.
Getting out of junior high and that mentality where they are all sharks in a feeding frenzy for any perceived physical differences is good for a person's mental health. By age 18 and done with high school most of the actual problems disappear, it's only remembered harassment and the learned fear that goes with a person. And yes, a few adults with their minds left back in junior high school consciousness still act like assholes and bullies. Most don't. They act more like, well, adults.
Under the acceptance category, most people accept that they have these breasts, but still wince and hide at the thought of bullies. That isn't acceptance. At best that is slight toleration. If those bumps of flesh don't cause shame and distress, then one is bullet proof with the bullies and they go look for easier pickings.
I really have accepted my body, realizing that it is not unusual, no more unique than all others around me and past the first 3 minutes following introduction to non-nudists with a junior high mindset, nobody else at all cares.
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