Good mp3 player?

[jackmac]

i want to buy the Creative Zen Vision M but i am still not 100% sure.. if i go with Ipod 80gb or 60gb Zen.

what u geeky guys and may be girls think..

[Bolognianips]

I have an old Zen Xtra 60gb,  Its litterally survived a war with me.  Its big and bulky, but Creatives products work exactly like an external hard drive, so it was exactly what I was looking for.  Its just drag and drop from windows.  I cant stand I-tunes.