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Offline Pferdestärken

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Great story d2000. Twenty years ago it would have been unthinkable to have a procedure like this, which I guess is why we have all llived with the condition for so long. I wonder if in our 50's we'd consider it?

I have to admit to having some anxiety about skin elasticity myself - will it spring back afterwards? Hopefully so, as it seems to have for you.

Your recovery seems to be swift, much more so than seems to be the norm after a Levick op. Who did you go with?

Good for you, enjoy the rest of your life without having to worry about those 400cl appendages!
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Webster and ps my surgery experience has been good although I should point out that I still have bruising and some swelling after nearly 2 weeks, I don't want to make out that this has all been as easy as falling off a log!!

I purposely didn't mention my surgeon in my previous post and should explain why before going further.  I honestly don't feel that I am able to make a recommendation whether to use the surgeon or not.  I approached this procedure very differently from others who have posted on this site.  I did no research, it was very much a snap decision to do something or forget about it.  I know that if I had researched, planned and had different consultations then i probably would not have gone ahead.  A surgery apointment even a couple of months in advance would have put me off.  I had been to the clinic over a year before but didn't progress any further.  I phoned them up at the beginning of April, booked a consultation with the only surgeon who could do the operation that month.  I had the consultation and 5 days later had the operation (had to sign a disclaimer saying that i was happy to forgo the 2 week cooling off period).  I know it sounds madness doing something as important as this in this way but that is the way I work!!  So for me to recommend the surgeon to others would be foolish.  This was a transaction based on speed and not who provided the best consultation and advice!!

Anyway having said that I used the Harley Medical Group in London and the surgeon was Mr Malik.  I was given a bit of confidence by the fact that he was the same surgeon who undertook the operation for the reporter who wrote the article in the Guradian in 2003 that initailly prompted me to take some action!!  For me the experience has been good but from what I have read on this site I could have been opening myself up to many risks and problems.  He has done many of these procedures but from what I read here it would seem he is not as experienced as Levick and believe me that was a big worry for me the night before the operation!!

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d2000,   I can entirely understand why you would with a snap decision as fast as possible.

Normally I would research big decisions, try to analyse pros and cons and go with the most logical option.

In the case of choosing a PS for gynecomastia ..… it’s bound up with many very personal emotions.

I feel a very strong urge to grit my teeth and get the whole thing over ASAP. I don’t really want to go for one consultation let alone a number to conduct adequate ‘market research’ so if I Levick seems OK and offers an early op date then I’ll probably go with that.

Usually I’d consider that a very poor effort. But like you if I don’t keep this ball rolling – its liable to stop!

Still thanks for sharing Mr Maliks name. I may well call them.

Glad to hear all seems to be going well for you.

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Webster

I had my consultation today; it went very well, he's a great guy, very friendly, understanding and puts you right at ease. Very relaxed atmosphere. Nothing to worry about at all!  :)

I said I wanted the fix asap; I was then taken aback when offered Wed 25 May (just 12 days away)  :o! That was a little too soon, and Wednesday isn't a good day for me anyway, so I took Friday 3 June instead.

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so if I Levick seems OK and offers an early op date then I’ll probably go with that.

If that's the case, be prepared! You could be booked in PDQ! I'd go along next week with your diary clear for the next few weeks.

I've got 3 weeks; after next week I have to stop garlic, vitamins, aspirin, and booze for the two weeks up to the op to cut down on the risk of haematoma.

I've started a diary over on the, er, diaries forum - http://www.gynecomastia.org/cgi-bin/gyne_yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=10;action=display;num=1116000614

My ball is well and truly rolling - ain't no stopping it now! I'm off internet shopping now for my compression vests and arnica supplies!


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Finally I have some time to write this! Seems this has been a popular thread whilst I was away.

OK, so I wanted to share with some others the process I have gone through and if I had known what I know now, would I have done anything differently.

First things first, I have to say I am absolutely delighted that I have gone through with this. Even at just 3 weeks post-op, the results are – for me at least – great. I have been extremely lucky and suffered only minor bruising and virtually no swelling as yet. I do not deny that the immediate 24 hours after the operation were extremely unpleasant – a lot of vomiting, unable to sit-up, general misery really. I have to confess that it was so painful and awkward, I wondered if I had done the right thing. Especially the drains. You wake up in a hospital bed, bound tight with bandages around your chest and these God-awful pipes coming out of your armpits. I almost felt guilty that I had put my poor body through this torture. But I think everyone feels most uncomfortable in the first few hours after an operation.


But by day 2, I had recovered dramatically and was able to wander around London quite happily. Any concerns about having it done had completely disappeared.

By day 4 I was back at work and really functioning pretty well, bar the wad of bandages wrapped around me.

In some ways, the most traumatic moment was cutting the bandages off. I had been looking forward to doing it for 5 days (and really, I guess, the 25 years before that), but when the moment came, I found myself finding a host of excuses to delay it! When I finally did it, I was staggered. I had this glimpse of a part of me that I had never seen before – the muscle definition etc in my chest. I think I mentioned in my last post, that is was like finally having a bad neighbour evicted, in that you had put up with the aggravation for so long and it is only after they have gone that you realise how bad it was!

Since then, all continues to go well. The dramatic hollows left on the chest are now filling out and the op scars are healed. I still have areas of zero-sensation of the left side and the whole area is still extremely tender at certain times. But I can sleep comfortably on my side now (and have been for the last week or so). But undoubtedly the most inconvenient thing now is the compression vest. I work in Spain and it is getting warm now, so anything other than a thin cotton shirt makes life uncomfortable.


In terms of Levick and a choice of surgeon. Well, I had a meeting with the Harley Medical Group and with another clinic in London before talking to Levick. I would just be repeating others here, but I felt Levick approached the issue as a surgeon, rather than a cosmetic surgeon, if that makes sense. He answered my questions, took time to explain the procedure properly and made sure I was happy with his answers. I found him, his staff and the whole experience up in The Priory ideal, considering I was having a chunk of fat and tissue pulled out of me! I cannot fault how it all went.

Reading others posts here about how they can remember teasing and ridicule as if it were yesterday reminds me so clearly of my experiences with this. I too can replay every moment from 25 years ago.

In some ways, telling yourself you are going to do this requires you face those old demons. I was in a state of denial about this for all those years. I am tall and quite slim and lucky enough to have a good job, so managed to “hide” it from me and others, through clothes and general belief that my life was near-ideal. To accept the need to do something would have meant accepting that I was lying all this time. I seriously think some of the darkest moments were when I was caught between finally accepting it but not knowing where to turn to for a solution. If anyone is in that place now, I hope this helps. I cannot stress enough that the hardest step I feel is to admit this is getting in the way of your life. It is not life-threatening nor crippling and God knows we are lucky to be healthy otherwise. But we are compromised with this condition and if there is a solution, then I urge you to do it. Yes it is invasive, quite rough surgery. But I seem to have healed very quickly and as mentioned, just a little bit of tenderness gets in the way of me feeling 100%. Actually, more than 100%, if you see what I mean.

The truth is, most people probably will never even notice nor care if you have it done. Even wives and partners will be pleased for you, not because they think it has made a difference. But that is the point – it is for you and your mental state. The repercussions for me are that I now look at every task and event in a much more positive light, because I am not hiding a little secret from myself. That sounds corny, but it is true.

I cannot stress enough the value in really thinking about having this done. I know for many the thought of surgery sounds just too traumatic. But it is worth it, in my opinion. I still catch myself grinning as I think about t-shirts, pools and general normal behaviour. At 38, I imagine I will remain delighted for the rest of my days.

For all those who have found this board, I hope these comments are useful. I have found the comments constructive, educated and it thoughtful - all a huge help in making the decision to go ahead. I still read others who are on the verge of doing it and identify with that fantastic/agonising limbo period between consultation and operation! Well done, I hope you are as pleased as I am.

Best wishes

SC

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Good post sydneyc.

I am now 3 months post op (i think) and so far im pleased with the results.  I still have a fair bit scar tissue and chest is still a bit concave at the nipple area, but im carrying a bit excess body fat which is going down now :) (hard training doing that.) The op has done wonders for me and my confidence now though. Im always out in a t-shirt now and never have to worry about (iis my chest showing).  Anyone who is thinking of the op and can afford it should get it done, its as simple as that.
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PS   -  Thanks for your report of visit to Levick and diary. Your words are a great positive boost for me  ’cos I’m anxious, anxious anxious. But if I don’t do this now I don’t think I’ll ever get the mental momentum up again. Keep posting …. and I’ll doubtless be encouraged to book an op date with Levick in the next few weeks.


Sydneyc /  RRB  - since you’ve already been with Mr Levick, can either of you explain the after care he provides. – ie how many post-op visits have you made and will he speak on the phone if you have concerns.

Also I’m very interested on how your ‘recoveries’ are going. I want to know if you would be happy enough with your progress to go to the swimming pool now – or is that a longer term prospect?  

I’m not as vain as I was when I was 20 so I’m not expecting perfection in 2 months.  but it would seal my decision if I thought that all going well, several months after the operation I would feel confident enough to take my kids swimming!

I’m 6’2’’ and a bit more than 15st (althougth I’m going to try to be nearer 14 stone by the time I get a op date). I would describe my gynecomastia as moderate; pretty similar to Serg’s ‘before’ pic actually.

I know this summer’s going to be a hot one! I’m dreaming of diving in to a pool or the sea without a care for my chest, some point before Autumn. Is this likely or total fantasy???

Thanks for any more info as I’ll be at the point of booking with Levick next week.

A NERVOUS WEBSTER.

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Just to let you know about my progress.. I'm a bit over 5 weeks post op and look pretty much "normal" now. The only issue is the need for my areolas (which obviously used to be puffy and "full") to tighten to my chest just a bit. I'm not worried about this though, as forum member "Ste" told me he had this exact issue, with the same surgeon / similar "befores" etc - and it took 3 months.

So yeah, quite happy really.
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SyndeyC

Top post! I was fighting my emotions reading the demons part - and lost. Yes, we are lying to ourselves, and often to others who we should be more honest with. My wife (of 22 years) was shocked that I had lived with this so long while being so bothered by it. But how can we share something we deny to ourselves?

The relief to finally have this out in the open, to share it with someone, and to be able to feel that something can be done about it is indescribable. Already I feel like a massive weight has been lifted - like I have no reason to be p*ssed off with the world any more!

Its great that your surgery and recovery is going so well  - especially from the personal perspective of someone with surgery in 3 weeks!

Thanks for posting, and good luck, I hope things continue to go your way!

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Having seen Mr Levick yesterday I have to say I genuinely feel like I'm on the verge of a life changing event. Wild horses couldn't keep me from that appointment in 3 weeks now. Closer to the date I may not be quite so keen, so I intend to pay in advance next week while my resolve is high, just to make sure I don't bottle out!

I don't relish the idea of surgery - I'm pretty squeamish. I'm trying to look on the whole things as a business project. It helps enormously that people like RRB, d2000 and webster have been there and come out of the other side with a positive result.

Don't lose heart, you owe yourself this. You had no say in whether you should have this condition, its compromised your life in many subtle ways over the years, and here you are with a real possibility of having this blight removed forever. Go for it!

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Pferdestärken (that is a tricky name), pleased you found the post useful.

Do not get too traumatised by the thought of the surgery - it is only a little more distressing as it all takes place in your chest - the space I mentally associate with a lot of important equipment!

24 hours after the operation, I found the only discomfort was not being able to bleat to every one how excited I was about what I had finally had done.

My last piece of advice - I am sure my fast healing was thanks to arnika. I was taking the most powerful capsules in the run up and am still on them now. Cannot stress enough that I think these made all the difference.

Just in case this is the last post, all the very best for 3 weeks time and here's to the summer of 2005!

Best wishes

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Can I ask what for me is a very important question. I am 52, and have had this affliction ( thats what it is to me) since I can rememeber. I am not in a possition to pay for surgery and my only hope is NHS. Is this surgery available on the NHS and if so what steps do I take to start the ball rolling. I dont believe for 1 minute that my doctor will listen anymore that they did when i was a kid.

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taichi - hi!

It IS an affliction, and also a recognised medical condition.

I'm fortunate in that I can pay for my own op - though I am having to sell my prized sports car to pay for it. I can't therefore tell you how to approach this from an NHS perspective, except that my understanding is that any NHS treatment would have to be initiated by your GP.

Hopefully they will be more enlightened that when you were younger. If not I'd suggest you point them in the direction of this website and ask them to research the condition.

Realistically, you will probably have to counter the view that at your age you have lived with the condition for a long time, so why is it necessary to have treatment now? (not MY view I hasten to add, just playing Devils Advocate so you can be prepared!)

Good luck!

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Dont go with Levick pal.

read my other posts

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Go with Levick....

Look at my other pics! lol

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