Author Topic: Surgery Completed With Karidis 21.05.13  (Read 10785 times)

Offline KSS24

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The left half of my left nipple pokes out in a puffy fashion after not wearing my vest for a couple of hours, i felt the area and i cant decide if it feels lumpy underneath or not (the area feels numb so im struggling to decide). Its obviously some kind of swelling or scar tissue but its so funny the other voice in your head that is saying shit your gyne is growing back.

Im back at work this week and wearing the vest at night, we are wearing our own clothes due to the pretty nice weather and i have to say it feels awesome to stand up straight in a tight t shirt and feel absolutely confident.

And even that slight puffyness you are getting, I assume it's nothing compared to Gyne puff? And looks completely fine in a T-Shirt? I really don't want my puffy nipples to come back, even with Gyne gone I understand puffy nipples is just natural for some men, but I think I'll still feel paranoid if my nipples are puffy. Then again I might feel completely different once the surgery is done and I see how flat my chest actually is? Ahhh I can't wait.

Glad you are doing all good and enjoying wearing T-Shirts mate, I can't wait for that feeling. Have my consultation tomorrow morning at 11am, which hopefully will be followed by book up for Thursday the 13th!

Also mate, did you end up trying to sleeping upright for the full week? I've heard only the first night?
« Last Edit: June 06, 2013, 07:37:47 PM by KSS24 »

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Congrats on the results

I recently underwent surgery by karidis too.
But I'm not sure when it is best to replace the plasters
Covering my nipples.

Can you help?

Offline Era

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Hiya mate the next day after the surgery you remove the blue padding and all the plasters and replace them with water proof ones. You leave them on until they fall off, usually 7 days. The ones near your armpit are trick and need to replaced quite often i found mine kept coming off. After 7 days you should be all healed up and dont need the plasters any more, i decided to just take mine off rather than wait for them to fall off because i really wanted to see how my nipples looked

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Here is the lump on the left side of my left nipple i was talking about, im trying not to panic but it does feel awfully like gland.



Offline KSS24

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I'd like to see how it looks from other angles? front, more to the side level. Honestly mate you can do nothing other than see how it pans out after massaging etc you are still very early on just over a couple of weeks now is it? It should get better by the sounds of other peoples experiences, could just be scar tissue. If it doesn't get better, mention it on your next check up with Karidis and he will be able to reassure you about it or say if you need to get a adjustment. I can imagine it's hard to not let your mind wander and think about it.

Apart from that are you very happy with your results so far? And even with that at this moment in time I assume it's 10x better than having Gyne?

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Nearly 4 weeks post op now. My whole chest area is really tender with a lot of bumps and some squidgy mass underneath both nipples that is also tender. I cant put my arms above my head any where near properly yet still, it feels like something is tugging that is routed about an inch or 2 below each nipple, scar tissue?

A girl at work hit me in my chest the other day thankfully i deflected most of the blow and it hurt only a little, i must of looked a rite little bitch though haha.

The incisions below my nipples dont look too great they look worse to me then ones i have seen. As of now im not happy with how my chest looks one bit.










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Your recovering, i wrote a conclusive post about recovery a year or so ago that some people liked but i cant find it yet again so ill do a quick one.

Like i said at the start of the thread, first week is the honeymoon period. You come home after having the op, that's the hard part over and you go to bed. Wake up the next day, its all anticipation you cant wait to get the vest off and have a look. Vest comes off, and wow your totally flat its euphoric the emotions are overwhelming and you think that's it fixed time to get on enjoying life.

But a week or so later, things start to look a bit bumpy and that totally flat chest you had last week is starting to feel like a distant memory you login here to check your post op pics things are definitely getting worse. A few weeks pass, your nipples have shriveled up you cant feel sensation, scar tissue is beginning to form this is starting to feel like you've flushed £4k down the toilet

few months down the line, your looking in the mirror thinking Karidis hasnt done a thing. Your no better off than you were before, infact you feel it looks worse than before. Thoughts start to whirl around your head massaging is becoming more than a chore, its becoming slightly addictive and you swear you can see results directly after massaging.

The swelling and scar tissue goes, but it still doesnt look right no matter what people say. There is something missing you still dont feel comfortable. But at some point, maybe in a few months time maybe a year from now something just clicks in your head. The anxiety goes, and you feel a sense of closure you actually are gyne free. You dont need to hunch your shoulders, you can stand up right you can wear tight clothes and a weight is ultimately lifted off your shoulders. Sooner or later, you will reach this point and there will be some sort of trigger for it. For me it was going to see Karidis post op, i was pissed off at the time because he was telling me things i didnt want to hear. But on the way home on the train his words really resonated with me, and it made me feel so much better and id really recommend to any of Karidis's patients to go and see him if you have any doubts.

I could talk about post op recovery all day, its a massive mixture of emotions. And the problem is everyone (including me) blanks warnings regarding recovery because they think that wont happen to them. For some people, it doesn't and they are the lucky ones But recovery is definitely more of a mental recovery than a physical one.

But yeah, i suppose i didnt keep that short at all lol. But in summary it will get better ride out the waves you are not alone post op anxiety nearly everyone gets it but people dont document it because its hard to talk about it. It looks like swelling to me, its not missed gland or re occurrence.
Surgery With Alex Karidis - 16/05/09 - Completed!
http://www.gynecomastia.org/smf/index.php?topic=17738.0

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I feel like you should actually get paid to post on this site! Your like my voice of reason, thanks a lot for taking the time to settle me down. Im going to listen to you and just chill.

One thing though, do my incisions look deep to you like compared to what you have seen, or are they standard and they are worse to me because they are mine.

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TheTodd is a really great poster here. If that didn't help reassure you I don't know what will. But I wouldn't be worrying too much at only just over 3 weeks. I think I'm going to wait until I get to the 2 month stage before I start over thinking the results of my chest and even then there is still a long way to go with massaging etc.

Might I ask when you feel all the tightness had gone? I know you said you still feel a bit tender.

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The tightness has gone apart from that weird tugging area, i found this just now and it sounds like it could be the cause.

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Refined male chest sculpture leaves the same layer of fat found in uninvolved regions behind after surgery. That way the skin does not tend to scar directly to the muscle which can cause strange pulling of tissues when flexing the chest. Surgical attempts to remove all gland elements as in a problem of male breast cancer, just does not look natural. In normal gynecomastia sculpture, a small button of gland is often left just under the nipple to prevent nipple collapse. (It is hard to move a piece of fat into a nipple defect and keep that fat alive after surgery.) Fine fingers or threads of gland can be left behind in the fat layer. Residual fat and gland can be stimulated to regrow.


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Im now totally relaxed about my nipples, i massaged yesterday and it flattened them right out of at least 8 hours. The thing is after properly being able to feel around there is no hard mass or even soft mass in the area it just feels like a water balloon, so theres obviously fluid collected in the area. They are a bit sore today though after massaging they feel pretty tender. The scars look really deep though im pretty sure the end result the scars will be visable but im not arsed to be honest.

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Just over 4 weeks post op tried the gym today because i was getting fed up of waiting, i can basically do any lift/exercise unless my hands go over my head. So that means no overhead presses. I can do pull ups because i feel i nice stretch in my tight areas when i lower myself down. I lifted very light for 10 reps.

Im probably going to start back properly next week.

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Good to hear you are relaxed about your nipples mate, I'm sure things will sort themselves out the further time passes. My moment of truth comes tomorrow when I get to see them for the first time since my day 1 shower and removal of dressings etc. I hope they look a bit better than they did that day.

And 4 weeks seems plenty time to wait to hit the gym, I'm pretty sure I saw somewhere people can start with the gym lightly again after 2-3 weeks. I know after 2 weeks I'm going to be cycling again or hopefully even back to running, will depend on how I feel. I miss not having football and running twice a week with my mates. :(

Can't wait to hit chest back at the gym and build some muscle to give my chest a little shape, so could you do bench press or not? Or did you not bother to attempt it? I probably would have just tried the bar on it's own which in most places I believe is 20kg.

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How did they look the first day mate i cant remember what you said, was it wrinkly? Have you had a look today yet? :)

Yeah i couldnt be bothered starting with super light weights but now i wish i did because it really stretched my chest out yesterday. Im starting running on monday i bought some nike under armour the other day to help keep things tight. How come you stopped football and running with your mates?

Yeah i expected to have a nicely developed chest underneat but theres not much mass there haha pretty dissapointed, i have been lifting low reps for strength though, ive only been life for 6 months so wanted to get some base strength there before i started training for any kind of mass. Bench pressing was great i did 4 sets starting with an empty bar increasing by 10kg each time so for the last set i ended up on 50, i could of done probably 60 for all 4 sets for 10 reps.

Im starting a diet tomorrow also, for the first 1-2 weeks im going to drink a protein shake for breakfast and dinner and then a healthy well rounded tea. Want to be really strict just to get things kick started then eat 3 healthy meals from then on and probably 2 snacks inbetween. Combine that with a 10k 2x a week and weights 4 times a week i should have a pretty nice body in 2 months hopefully :P

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Yeah they was all wrinkley where I have quite big (or a lot of skin) nipples. So where they are pretty much dead with no feeling for a while after surgery they just sit there wrinkley and a bit retarted haha. Yes I looked today, they look a little better than I remember in terms of wrinkley but they still are, and now they have gone a bit black on parts (I guess bruising). And like I said they are dead for now, I was in the shower and warm/cold had no effect on them, they stayed the same.

Yeah I bet it feels good. I already own nike under armour from footy and running used to keep my gyne in place during those activities so always wore one underneath, and have been wearing under my compression vest as it takes away the itchyness and lets the vest slide a bit better, more movement. lol? I stopped because I had surgery? I can't do any of that yet, especially football which can be a high contact sport bumping into each other pulling people etc. Maybe you mis-understood or mis-read what I wrote about that? lol

Sounds all good mate, good luck with the dieting and and gym/exercise. Just gotta get into a routine and it gets pretty easy. Just gotta try to not break it because as soon as you do you start tweening your way out of that routine and then it fails. I've done that far too many times.

Had my vest off for a large period of time today, feels great, as far as I can tell I have no major swelling so I think I'm gonna just sleep in it mainly and maybe wear it here and there during the days. When I put it on it feels protective and supportive which I kind of like, but just can't hack it sometimes, just wanna rip it off lol!


 

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