Gyno after medication? [pics] UPDATE: running tamoxifen (nolvadex)

[errible]

As always, thanks for the input everyone. I'm currently trying to schedule an appt with an endocrinologist.

I've just one more question, regarding surgery. I read somewhere on these forums that it would be wise to wait until gynecomastia is fully developed before pursuing surgery, as there is a risk that gynecomastia will return if done sooner rather than later. Is this true?

If so, what is a good amount of time to wait before pursuing surgery? How will I know if the gyno has stopped developing?

Regards,
errible

[TigerPaws]

As always, thanks for the input everyone. I'm currently trying to schedule an appt with an endocrinologist.

I've just one more question, regarding surgery. I read somewhere on these forums that it would be wise to wait until gynecomastia is fully developed before pursuing surgery, as there is a risk that gynecomastia will return if done sooner rather than later. Is this true?

If so, what is a good amount of time to wait before pursuing surgery? How will I know if the gyno has stopped developing?

Regards,
errible

Ok! A smart ass reply would be when you have finally filled out your bra. As for the real answer, no one knows.

[coorsbright]

Heres the definition of gyno....... if you work out and are in shape usually everywhere but the nipple section.   Which gyne is causing not to be defined..    out of shape people it is hard to tell.. this is gyne. like my case.  surgery time.   and lets hope the hairloss and gyne arent related to those mlb enhancers..

[hammer]

What the hell happened to men having pecks? Half of these whiners have underdeveloped pecks! The other half have NHO, nipple hard on!

[Alchemist]

What the hell happened to men having pecks? Half of these whiners have underdeveloped pecks! The other half have NHO, nipple hard on!

Hi Hammer,

Until I showed up at this site I thought gyne was rare.  After all I saw very few guys carrying a pair like Jim38c or my DD or yours or whatever.  I had no idea that nipples alone, NHO, or a barely bulged was gyne, much less surgical fodder.  By that standard half the guys in high school harassing me in the showers had gyne and didn't even know it.  What has happened that so many people are so charged up about something nobody notices except them in their own worst fears.  That I don't get.  Is this hypersensitivity about the body new or what?

[hammer]

What the hell happened to men having pecks? Half of these whiners have underdeveloped pecks! The other half have NHO, nipple hard on!

Hi Hammer,

Until I showed up at this site I thought gyne was rare.  After all I saw very few guys carrying a pair like Jim38c or my DD or yours or whatever.  I had no idea that nipples alone, NHO, or a barely bulged was gyne, much less surgical fodder.  By that standard half the guys in high school harassing me in the showers had gyne and didn't even know it.  What has happened that so many people are so charged up about something nobody notices except them in their own worst fears.  That I don't get.  Is this hypersensitivity about the body new or what?

I think do to the media some think they need to look like the nuts you see on TV and in print that aren't even reality. The sizing of clothing isn't even reality! What is size 0? I think you should be able to take a tape and if you are a 44 you wear 44, if you are 24, well you know what I mean.

People have lost what is real and what is not! They spend money they don't have to try to be someone or something they are not, just be yourself, just as you are! Learn to like and love yourself!

Alchemist has learned and is a nudist if that is what it takes, do it, but for God sakes learn to be yourself and like who you are before you forget who that is!

It is better to be hated for who you are, then loved for who you are not!

[Alchemist]

What the hell happened to men having pecks? Half of these whiners have underdeveloped pecks! The other half have NHO, nipple hard on!

Hi Hammer,

Until I showed up at this site I thought gyne was rare.  After all I saw very few guys carrying a pair like Jim38c or my DD or yours or whatever.  I had no idea that nipples alone, NHO, or a barely bulged was gyne, much less surgical fodder.  By that standard half the guys in high school harassing me in the showers had gyne and didn't even know it.  What has happened that so many people are so charged up about something nobody notices except them in their own worst fears.  That I don't get.  Is this hypersensitivity about the body new or what?

I think do to the media some think they need to look like the nuts you see on TV and in print that aren't even reality. The sizing of clothing isn't even reality! What is size 0? I think you should be able to take a tape and if you are a 44 you wear 44, if you are 24, well you know what I mean.

People have lost what is real and what is not! They spend money they don't have to try to be someone or something they are not, just be yourself, just as you are! Learn to like and love yourself!

Alchemist has learned and is a nudist if that is what it takes, do it, but for God sakes learn to be yourself and like who you are before you forget who that is!

It is better to be hated for who you are, then loved for who you are not!

Hi Hammer,

A lot of the ethic of the nudist society is body and self acceptance and acceptance of others.  In Alchemy, one must accept ones self before making changes or the changes are all imaginary and unpredictable because it's like following the map without knowing if the map you are looking at even covers the territory, and of course the map is not the territory, just a representation.  I've worked in the group health field for decades. Satisfaction with outcomes is most common where the problem is definite and the fix is definite.  Where the problem exists in the mind surgery doesn't help.  So the ladies that keep going back for bigger breast implants have unrealistic expectations.  I see that here when somebody whose "problem" isn't visible to most others wants surgery.  As somebody pointed out I would have been thrilled to have chests like most of the per-surgical folks unless I was looking a every "silly little millimeter" (remember 101mm cigarettes.  If I had a 98% reduction in size I would be trilled and still larger than 75% of the people posting pictures here.  But it would be a double mastectomy with all the inherent hazards including death, scaring, loss of sensation and so on and lots of money I don't have with a delicate health balance.  I found self acceptance to be superior with the Alfred E. Newman approach, "What, me worry?"

[TigerPaws]

With all due respect to the forums owner and the physicians who donate their time to answering questions. In my very humble opinion far too many men are getting totally unnecessary surgery. There are serious risks and there are no guarantees and while I highly respect a persons right to do what they want, all to often I have seen physicians downplay what the risk/rewards are.   

[coorsbright]

Noone gets this surgery for fun..  it will help your mind, which is bigger than budlets..  if you have a problem with your nipples, they will never fix themselves.  i regret waiting til 21.  Its prob hereditary so ill have the surgeon rdy for my kid the first time i see a bulge in his shirt.. secondly most ppl.just have no clue what it is.. 

[TigerPaws]

Noone gets this surgery for fun..  it will help your mind, which is bigger than budlets..  if you have a problem with your nipples, they will never fix themselves.  i regret waiting til 21.  Its prob hereditary so ill have the surgeon rdy for my kid the first time i see a bulge in his shirt.. secondly most ppl.just have no clue what it is.. 

No offense intended but, the only way to fix your head is to accept what and who you are. Fix that first then decide of your "problem" is real or imagined.

My son had gyno and went on to be a decorated officer before being killed I Iraq. While I support a persons right to choose what they want to do with themselves no amount of surgery will ever fix a problem in-between you ears. To believe so is beyond foolish.

[hammer]

TigerPaws, I am sorry about your son! I am a vet, 4 years Navy, 7 Army and gynecomastia also all the years during service. I agree with you as far as between your ears, as I said in the previous post, one needs to learn to like/love themselves, before they can do anything else, including love someone else!

[Alchemist]

Noone gets this surgery for fun..  it will help your mind, which is bigger than budlets..  if you have a problem with your nipples, they will never fix themselves.  i regret waiting til 21.  Its prob hereditary so ill have the surgeon rdy for my kid the first time i see a bulge in his shirt.. secondly most ppl.just have no clue what it is.. 

Hi Coorsbright,

At 21, If I had a way to pay for it and the surgery had existed with the 8 years of utter misery I had with C or D breasts I had in Jr High, high school and college I would have been thrilled to get it, regardless of risks, "Damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead."  Of course it wouldn't have ended most of the crap as I was overweight and because of hereditary  nutritional and metabolic problems that were unsolvable until 4 years ago.  Being fat was ample reason for every bully in sight to go after me.  Most didn't even know about the breasts.

At 19 I started dating the girl who had founded the college nudist club.  I started teaching skiing at 19 and became a professional ski patrolman at 21.  I was one of the best skiers on the mountain.  The girls didn't give a damn if my breasts were bigger than theirs when the clothing came off.  At 22 I got married and at 24 my life was changed with 3 fractures in my back, and damaged everything else when a truck ran a red light.  At that point breasts became at most a minor annoyance, even a C or D cup pair and almost never interfered at all except in my own head and that rarely any more after that crash.  The rest of my life has been spent trying to make a living despite the damage from the crash and aforementioned hereditary metabolic and nutritional problems.  They are DD now, and a conversation item that occasionally gets me an offer from the ladies of "You can feel mine if I can feel yours".  What a difference self acceptance, 43 years and $300,000 of health expense later makes.

[TigerPaws]

TigerPaws, I am sorry about your son! I am a vet, 4 years Navy, 7 Army and gynecomastia also all the years during service. I agree with you as far as between your ears, as I said in the previous post, one needs to learn to like/love themselves, before they can do anything else, including love someone else!

Thank you hammer.

I spent 25 years in the service, from Viet Nam to Afghanistan (yes there were U.S. combat troops there in 1987, 88 and 89) then again in Somalia, Bosnia, Iraq 1 & 2. That was the life I chose as did my son, he knew the risks seeing me go off to war time and time again, he saw me come home wounded, battered and at times beaten down.
He knew what he was getting into more than most, he knew the risks.

 

[hammer]

Thank you for your service! I knew that we where there during those years  as I was still in too, I spent time in the early 80's trying get Qaddafi! To bad we didn't way back then! Oops I don't think that was classified anymore, LOL. He is dead now? My discharge was April 1989!

[TigerPaws]

Thank you for your service! I knew that we where there during those years  as I was still in too, I spent time in the early 80's trying get Qaddafi! To bad we didn't way back then! Oops I don't think that was classified anymore, LOL. He is dead now? My discharge was April 1989!

Sounds good hammer, I watched the Soviets cross the Freedom Bridge in 1989 for 5 miles away, and while "officially" no U.S. troops were in actual combat I did manage to kill a couple of Mi-24 Hind helos in the process of training the Afghan mujahideen.