I thought this thread was what is your worst gynecomastia memory, not is there a God and does he/she love/hate me.
Cellar_Door, while I would agree with your assessment of the universe, I would never be so arrogant as to negatively characterize a person's religious or spiritual belief. There are billions of people on this planet who believe they have a personal relationship with their God. You, nor I, have any right to ridicule their beliefs, just as much as they have no right to ridicule ours. In the end, none of us know wtf we are doing here. We know nothing, except our own ignorance.
So, let's get back to talking about nipple pinching, shirts versus skins games, and the like.
Fair enough, though I was trying to help him, not ridicule him. If he thinks god is punishing him, I want to show him how absurd that really is so he can liberate himself from that insidious, negative belief.
No one gave you gyno to punish you. It just happens, it's biological, and it's no one's fault.
I understand where you're coming from but;
If you think about it, imaging the creator of the universe - of all the billions of planets and galaxies, all the billions of humans that ever lived, dreamed, hoped, fought, loved, hated, suffered, and died on our own tiny planet in this insanely massive universe, all the horrific and traumatic and earth shattering events that have taken place ever since humans evolved, the sheer complexity of so many people interacting together for a short time on this spec of cosmic dust before they die, full of millions of children who live with maggots coming out of their eyes and born with genetic diseases that cause untold misery, that the creator of the universe thinks you - a single primate amongst billions - is so important enough in the scheme of the universe as to warrant endowing you with pubertal gyno in order to give you some humbleness, then hooollleeeyy shit
You're imagining* the creator with human characteristics, as if he has priorities and issues to deal with in order from most important to least. As if the universe you live in has the same value to you as him.
"is so important enough in the scheme of the universe as to warrant endowing you with pubertal gyno"
I never said that, when did I ever say that I am that important? or that this part of my life is that important? Of course I understand that there are problems much much greater then mine, and there are plenty of people who would give a rats ass about gyne because their problems are greater. All I said was maybe somewhere down the line I did something to deserve gynecomastia. Is that impossible? Don't put words in my mouth.
Yes, I do believe he is able to handle all problems in a way as a human I can't describe simply because I cant compare. And unlike you I don't imagine the creator based on my own experiences and values, I dont imagine him at all, I use teachings of culture and religious books as references. You're outlook on life isnt going to change mine regardless of what you say, so save yourself the typing if your whole point with arguing me is to:
"show him how absurd that really is so he can liberate himself from that insidious, negative belief."
That said I understand where you are coming from and that your outlook on life is different than mine. I just hope you can take into consideration that my outlook on life is different than yours.
" let's get back to talking about nipple pinching, shirts versus skins games, and the like. " I agree.