Beware of cortisol shots

[Bob2000]

my gynecomastia appeared 2 months or so after being injected with predinesone, being unaware i kept getting more and more injections for bursitis. So far i have had 2 mammograms, 2 ultrasounds, 3 blood works, and i am being told "its all fatty tissue with no glandular growth". a question for the knowledgeable folks here, since the cortisol injections caused me to accumulate so much fat in my chest, would that make me extremely prone to get pains under my nipples when using anything which inhibits DHT(only topical), due to excess estrogen in the fat?
btw i apologize for posting so many threads this week, i just need to help myself some how, as of yet i am in the dark

[Bob2000]

Did the endocrinologist do mammograms and ultrasounds? Yeah  i am inclined to believe endocrinologists are not equipped to adequately deal with gynecomastia, mine told me temaxifen is not for men therefore it will do nothing for me, studies refute her claim. My other endocrinologist told me "you have no gynecomastia, its all fat", however gynecomastia is gynecomastia, fat or gland. My third one told me "you DO have glandular growth because i could feel them" then after the ultrasound he told me "hmm i guess you gotta lose weight, cant do much else for you, but no i cant give you tamaxefin because i havent given that to any man before, oh you brought studies from online? i dont trust the internet" Surgeons like Dr Bermant seem to have a much deeper knowledge of this dreaded condition then do endocrinologists.

[Paa_Paw]

An Endocrinologist can play an important role in determining if there is an ongoing hormonal problem stimulating the growth of the breasts. If the breasts are growing or recently increased in size then you need an Endocrinologist. If the breasts have been unchanged for a year or more you may not necessarily benefit from a visit to an Endocrinologist.

The Endocrinologist can treat a glandular  problem that is causing Gynecomastia. They cannot actually treat established, fixed Gynecomastia; at that point you would need a surgeon.

The statement of the Doctor about proof of anything found on the internet is unfortunately true. No matter what you are trying to prove, you can find someone who claims to be an expert who will tell you what you want to hear. If you want verifiable and repeatable information look for a publication with peer reviews of the studies.

[Paa_Paw]

IF your Gynecomastia truly appeared only a couple of months ago after being treated with a steroid drug; it MIGHT regress.

In the short term, what appears to be Gynecomastia may be enlargement of the glandular tissue due to being stimulated by the drug. I find it hard to accept the idea that true growth of any significant amount could have happened so quickly. Your best course of action at this point might be simply to wait and see what happens.

It could also be true that you have had some enlargement there for some time but something recently brought it to your attention.

The steroid drugs in medical use are very much different from those used by body builders and the incidence of this type of side effect is not high.

[Grandpa Bambu]

I guess there are so many diseases you can't expect doctors to know about all of them.

Gynecomastia is NOT a disease dude...


The following is from Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary...

Disease

Entries 1 to 10 of 57.

   1. disease
   2. Addison's disease
   3. Alzheimer's disease
   4. Bang's disease
   5. Bright's disease
   6. caisson disease
   7. cat scratch disease
   8. celiac disease
   9. Chagas' disease
  10. chronic obstructive pulmonary disease


Main Entry:
    dis·ease Listen to the pronunciation of disease
Pronunciation:
    \di-ˈzēz\
Function:
    noun
Etymology:
    Middle English disese, from Anglo-French desease, desaise, from des- dis- + eise ease
Date:
    14th century

1obsolete : trouble2: a condition of the living animal or plant body or of one of its parts that impairs normal functioning and is typically manifested by distinguishing signs and symptoms : sickness , malady3: a harmful development (as in a social institution)
— dis·eased Listen to the pronunciation of diseased \-ˈzēzd\ adjective
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Take note, that the description of the word 'disease', includes 'impairs normal functioning'. Gynecomastia does not impair any bodily part/organ or function there of.

GB

[Grandpa Bambu]

I am being told "its all fatty tissue with no glandular growth".

Chest adipose tissue 'can be', for some, very difficult, and at times, next to impossible, to ret rid of. In 1990, I dropped my weight down to 148 pounds in an effort to banish my G. It decreased in size somewhat, however, the majority remained. At that point, it looked much worse! Standing at 6', weighing in at 148 lbs and wearing C/D cup m(o)(o)bs just looked ODD! I shake my head at the so called 'experts' telling those who suffer from G to "look at your diet"... They don't know JACK!!!

I've read so many testaments from members of this site about how they lost the pounds but the G remained.

In many cases, it's just not as easy as dropping a few pounds!

GB

[Grandpa Bambu]

my gynecomastia appeared 2 months or so after being injected with predinesone, being unaware i kept getting more and more injections for bursitis. So far i have had 2 mammograms, 2 ultrasounds, 3 blood works, and i am being told "its all fatty tissue with no glandular growth".

I suppose, in their minds, this statement makes it all okay... 

I really don't understand the mind set of these medical experts. They think that if there is no/little gland present, then it isn't gynecomastia (the so-called pseudo-G) and therefore the poor inflicted sole just has to exercise a tad. Gynecomastia is defined as a male chest having the 'appearance' of a female breast (excessive development of the breast in the male). It does not say... 'excessive development of glandular tissue in the male'. There is no mention of how much glandular tissue must be present in order for it to 'qualify' as gynecomastia!

I really don't understand why so many members of this site and most medical professionals, think that if there is little glandular growth then it's not gynecomastia. A female breast is comprised of both glandular tissue and adipose tissue. Adipose tissue is a part of the equation here people! If we used the same mind set of those who think this way, then wouldn't a woman be able to 'exercise her breasts away'?    Yes/No?

People need to understand that we are talking about 'breasts' on a man. Not just a bit of chest fat buildup. You cannot exercise breasts away...

GB

[Bob2000]

Before I had this I always assumed that doctors were a lot more competent than they were. That illusion has been blown out of the water

I have been plagued not just by gyne, in fact over the course of the previous year and a half i have had over 10 different symptoms, joint pains, muscle spasms, hair issues, fast heart rate,chest pains, muscle knots, breathing difficulties etc, etc. So far, i have received a total of 0 answers as to what is going on in my body. After the cortisol shots my sex drive went to almost nonexistent, the urologists i was seeing did a testosterone test and it came out "barely normal". However he saw nothing strange in that, "well you fit in the normal range so your lack of sex drive cant be due to your low testosterone" I suppose its not their fault for being incompetent, this is part of their training, who ever fits within a given set of numbers, then he or she is normal. What else is part of their training is to never try and pinpoint the CAUSE of a condition, but treat the symptoms. Through my own research and trial and error have i been able to reduce many of my painful muscular symptoms. They were glad to supply me with bottles and bottles of pills that i care nothing for and refuse to take them.

[Plarkin]

Did the endocrinologist do mammograms and ultrasounds? Yeah  i am inclined to believe endocrinologists are not equipped to adequately deal with gynecomastia, mine told me temaxifen is not for men therefore it will do nothing for me, studies refute her claim. My other endocrinologist told me "you have no gynecomastia, its all fat", however gynecomastia is gynecomastia, fat or gland. My third one told me "you DO have glandular growth because i could feel them" then after the ultrasound he told me "hmm i guess you gotta lose weight, cant do much else for you, but no i cant give you tamaxefin because i havent given that to any man before, oh you brought studies from online? i dont trust the internet" Surgeons like Dr Bermant seem to have a much deeper knowledge of this dreaded condition then do endocrinologists.

No they didn't do any mammograms or ultrasounds. She just had me lay on my back and pressed down on my chest.

Before I had this I always assumed that doctors were a lot more competent than they were. That illusion has been blown out of the water. Not just endocrinologists but general physicians often aren't that educated about gyno. I guess there are so many diseases you can't expect doctors to know about all of them.

When my sex drive went down but before I developed gyno I went to a urologist and he checked my testosterone levels and said it was all in my head and I was just depressed. Despite the fact I told him I wasn't depressed. So I'd also like to go back to that douche and show him pictures of my gyno and be like "really, me thinking I had some hormonal problem was all in my head?"

Endocrinologists can offer basically no help. If you try to cure your gyno through hormones the treatment is usually worse than the cure. Many men only get gyno after they go on TRT. Endos should be used to make sure you have no severe abnormalities like a tumor or a complete hypogonadism, beyond that they're worthless.

Not to pile on endocrinologists here, but there are many cases of gyne that are in fact hormonal-related, but the endo just won't be able to determine the exact cause of cure, if there is one. Lot's of things hormonal get lumped under idiopathic, some of the receptor-gene problems and all that. That takes a lot of time and effort to discover, if it can be determined.

[Bob2000]

yeah combine all that with the fact that my own GP knows even less and doesn't take me seriously anymore based on the report these specialists have written in my medical records, " our evaluation indicated that the patient does not have gynecomastia, only fatty growth and tenderness". Funny how i wasnt born with this "fatty growth", it only happened a year and half ago after the cortisol shots.