Why is it that you leftists always seem to begin by calling people insulting names? Why are leftists always so angry?
Your ridiculous rant only shows that you don't go to the trouble of educating yourself about what socialized medicine will truly mean. The very reason we are talking about this is because the NHS picks and chooses what they want to cover and WHO they want to cover. That, in and of itself, is a travesty. And I'm not simply talking about relatively benign conditions, like gynecomastia. I'm talking heavy duty illnesses. Why do you think the NHS doesn't cover everyone and everything? Have you ever thought about that? Let me give you a hint. It's called MONEY. The reason they can't cover everyone and every condition is because they couldn't possibly pay for it all. Someone, therefore, has to NOT get something they need. Is this REALLY something you don't understand? Maybe you'd like to tell us all what you really like about socialism.
Yes, the death panels are real and it has now been proven. Pelosi said we have to pass the socialized health care bill in order to find out what was in it. Well, lo and behold, we see the death panels are for real. Of course they don't call them that, but that's what they are. Someone has to decide how the money is going to be spent, don't they? Someone has to decide WHO gets care, don't they? Of course they do. And some will NOT get care. That's a fact.
Why do you think doctors are so against the health care takeover by the government? It's partly because the government is going to be making the medical decisions for their patients instead of the doctors. NO self-respecting doctor would put up with such a thing, and that's why a lot of our physician's will be quitting rather than do what Obama's leftists tell them to do. Don't believe it? Ask YOUR physician how he/she feels about the health care bill. I've asked numerous physician's about it and the subject nearly makes them sick.
Maybe some doctors on this board would like to chime in on this subject.
Ever heard of supply and demand? We already had a shortage of doctors and various other medical personnel BEFORE the healthcare bill was shoved down our throats. If the healthcare bill now covers 30 million more people who previously had no coverage, what will that do to our system? But before you answer, consider that a poll showed up to 40% of America's doctors said they would quit their practice if the health care bill passed. And also consider that Obama and his fellow leftists are also planning on giving amnesty to another 20 to 30 million illegals in our country. We will pay for THEIR healthcare, too. So, how good is our system going to be when the number of doctors goes down significantly, and the number of patients goes up significantly (somewhere around 50 million more people)? I think you can do the math and see that the quality of care will go down very significantly. It's a certainty, and it's unavoidable. You'll be lucky to ever see a doctor under this system. Our healthcare system will become one of a lot of physician's assistants and yes, even nurses deciding your medical care. And the doctors? They will be coming from other countries and won't be speaking much English. Compared to the countries they will be coming from, America will seem like heaven to them.
Sadly, in all probability, your elderly relatives may not have received the excellent care they SHOULD have gotten. Who's to say if the doctors did everything they could? Depending on the overall health and prognosis for your relatives, it's possible that everything possible was NOT done for them because someone behind a computer 1,000 miles away decided that it wasn't the wisest way to spend the money. For all you know, they may have decided it made a lot more sense to give a young man hernia surgery than to try to extend the lives of your loved ones. Why? Because in their way of thinking, the young man would still be productive, whereas, your loved ones were "past their prime" and not really worth it. This is not to say that your relatives definitely got "the ax," but someone has to be the "unfortunate one" under the socialized medicine system. As Obama himself stated, sometimes, the best thing to do is just to give a pain pill. I'm sure the thought of what I'm saying is disgusting to you, but it's the truth. Socialized medicine IS disgusting! This is simply what happens when you have socialized medicine. The "haves" have to pay for the "have nots," therefore, the quality goes down for everyone, and some don't get care at all. There's only so much of other people's money.
If you really think the quality of care is so great in the UK and Canada, you should ask yourself WHY there are so many people coming to the U.S. to get needed operations and treatments. If you would go out of your way just a bit, you'll find numerous articles on the internet about people who are unhappy with conditions in the UK and Canada, where they have your beloved socialist system. And it's not working. Many are on long waiting lists for needed surgeries, so they come to the U.S. to get their surgery immediately. Perhaps you'd like to investigate how UNSUCCESSFUL the health care system is in Massachusetts. They already have the type of socialized system you are wanting and it has been an utter disaster. This disastrous system is about to become the norm for the entire country.
Maybe you'd like to ask yourself why there are so many people from other countries on this very board who are seriously thinking about coming to the U.S. for their gynecomastia surgery. These boards are full of people from other countries that complain about the treatment they received and "botched" surgeries. Do you know what someone from another country would consider coming to the U.S. for their gyne surgery? Have any ideas? Do you think it might have something to do with quality doctors, quality surgery and quality treatment? The answer is "yes". But that won't be the case much longer. America's quality health care is the best in the world. But it will go down very significantly as Obama's socialized medicine is ushered in. There's not even any debate about this, if you would bother to study up on the countries that already have socialized medicine. You'll notice that, if anything, they are trying to change their system and get back to the way WE do things. They already KNOW it doesn't work.
The reason Obama and the destructionists wanted the healthcare bill shoved down the throats of Americans is clear. They wanted the votes from the people getting the free care. It had nothing to do with "improving" conditions, because it did nothing of the sort. It did exactly the opposite. It had nothing to do with saving money, because it has already been shown that this will do nothing to contain costs. In fact, costs are going up, along with the deficit and national debt. Also, Obama lied when he said Americans can keep their health care plan if they like it. That won't be happening, and he knew when he said it that it was a lie. There is nothing good about socialism.
Socialism has never worked anywhere on the planet that it has been tried. Capitalism works EVERY time it is tried.