Some of us wear more than just bras...

[hammer]

What the heck at G86C underwear?  Standard military boxers?  Which are uncomfortable as hell since they ride up and rub your crotch raw.

I wasn't talking about underwear! I was talking about the type of job I did in the Navy and then in the Army!

I'm guessing that you must have worked in the ships laundry.

[Athena12@]

Hi Hammer and Nope! I was LCPO of the ET gang and OI division.  I stood watches on the quarter deck of various ships where you had to stand on the brow of the ship in bitter cold conditions,  We were lucky to have a heater in the Guard shack.  And if you every stood a mid-watch (12 - 4 AM) and on the water of the Chesapeake Bay in the winter you would know what I mean.

[hammer]

Hi Hammer and Nope! I was LCPO of the ET gang and OI division.  I stood watches on the quarter deck of various ships where you had to stand on the brow of the ship in bitter cold conditions,  We were lucky to have a heater in the Guard shack.  And if you every stood a mid-watch (12 - 4 AM) and on the water of the Chesapeake Bay in the winter you would know what I mean.

You poor soul, I stood or should a say sat my watches in "damage control centrol" I had my eye on the alarms and controls of any of the fire dangers in the comfort and warmth of an office, except for the time we went through the Suez Canal were I sat with a fire hose to stop any of the "locals" from trying to come aboard. Being from Minnesota, I was in charge of trying to teach the fire hose watch guys how to dress at night for the cold dessert night.

I became a Shell back March of 1982 just before my last Port of  Call, Western Australia near Perth. I was sent home from Diego Garcia, the little island between Africa and Australia, 25 hours in a C130.

[Athena12@]

Hammer I was station on the Belknap CG-26 and brought out of Philly when her in 79 was rebuilt after the collision with the Kennedy CVA -67. And I know what an HT is but you do not seem to know what and ET is.  When repaired all the search radars and communication equipment but you need a TS clearance for that if you know what that is.  I became a Shell back in 74 and a Blue nose in 85. BTW a C-130 can not fly 25 hours.

[hammer]

Hammer I was station on the Belknap CG-26 and brought out of Philly when her in 79 was rebuilt after the collision with the Kennedy CVA -67. And I know what an HT is but you do not seem to know what and ET is.  When repaired all the search radars and communication equipment but you need a TS clearance for that if you know what that is.  I became a Shell back in 74 and a Blue nose in 85. BTW a C-130 can not fly 25 hours.

Yes I do know what a ET is, as one of my best friends on my ship CG27 the  Josephus Daniels was a ET2 who also got our copenhagen supplied for us, sent from home when the ships store ran short. ( I quit copenhagen in 95 thank God, never did smoke).

As for Philly, that's where I went to HT A school. I set a record there! Did my 3 weeks of NBC warfare and Fire fighting classroom time, then the usual (10 weeks) of welding class only took me one week! I would walk into class and just ask to test out after doing set up. Part of the reason I advanced to 2nd class rather fast.

I went through welding and carpenter's school and worked in both traids prior to going in the Navy. I didn't join until I was almost 21.

[Athena12@]

Good on you Hammer!  When I was In Philly they still had HT school there but when the shipyard closed I think HT school did too.  I made Chief in Philly and one of the damn boot campers there called me "SIR" the first day I actually wore my Chief's uniform while I was walking into the shipyard.  Really pissed me off.

[hammer]

Good on you Hammer!  When I was In Philly they still had HT school there but when the shipyard closed I think HT school did too.  I made Chief in Philly and one of the damn boot campers there called me "SIR" the first day I actually wore my Chief's uniform while I was walking into the shipyard.  Really pissed me off.

I'll bet that it did piss you off! Did you tell him that you still worked for a living?

Have you seen the new uniforms? My daughter was a MC2 (mass communications specialist) and man, have the uniforms changed! She also tells me all the time, "Dad, it's not your Navy anymore"!

[Athena12@]

No Hammer it is not our Navy anymore.  It went out with the Obama administration during their search for Social Equality,  The Bush Administration wasn't much better.  I was in the ship overhaul business after I retired and decomissioned more ships than I like to count.  I also overhauled the Jack Daniels (CG-27) and decommissioned her 16 months later after they  spent 126 Mil. on her electronics alone.  They were told not to do it because her hull was shot but they did it any way.  I Did all to Nuc, Cruisers and destroyers  as well as My own ship the Belknap (CG-26).  It was bitter sweet after I helped put her back in commission  in 79,  
Hammer our Navy is GONE,

No Hammer I did not chew him out, I realize he was straight out of boot camp ad he would say SIR to anything in wearing more then three strips
or in khakis,

[hammer]

It's not just the Navy, it's the world that's changing! The 50's, 60' and even the 70's are much more than a thing of the past, they  just as well be the 20's, long gone!

[Athena12@]

Hammer you are right.  The sixties were the star of everything with the Hippie revolution and parents sending their sons to Canada to avoid the war.  The WOMENS revolution and the mistaken burning of the bras (their loss not ours).  That is when things started to spiral out of control.  The kids of that time lost a sense of responceablity and it carried on from there wo where it is today. We can't change it but it doesn't mean we have to like it.