Surgery with Karidis Done! - With Pics

[Nipper]

Thanks for clarifying the vest palava too.  I concur totally, there should be more concise info given to you before you leave, maybe a little infomercial on a usb stick or cd/dvd would of been a nice touch.  Maybe I should sell them that idea, for my 4300 back

[Nipper]

After tonight , it's off at nights for me too then.  I hate sleeping in it, just want to rip it off when I wake up, and I usually do.  Still a bit tender under the nipples, and bruised a bit but changing daily looking better some days and worse others, just as I expected.

[Nipper]

Quick Head's Up - 15 days Post Op

Well, time is sure flying by, can't believe I'm so far over the other side now.  Took the vest off today at 10:am and left it off for 8 hours as advised in the first stages re - the literature. 

Left side is still away on holiday , think the bottom is waking up but the top is hella numb and tingly, and when I tense, it creases over in the place where it is numb.  Right nipple is working A-OK.  Looked a bit better around the underneath of both my pecs today with regards to the unevenness and indents. 

Chest just felt a bit weird at first like tingly when the tee shirt was against it, guessing it's the numbness and lack of sensation.  Didn't appear to swell up majorly or anything untoward after having it off for so long, I did feel a little light headed at one point but that could also have been something else as it was a while after taking it off.  Getting loads of spots around and under the garment and a little rash, using canestan cream on that and quinoderming those heat spots.   Can't wait to get up outta bed nowadays, now that I get to whip that mofo off for a spell

[adamj]

Congrats pal, got to say I'm jealous you can take that off!

[Nipper]

Cheers buddy.  Just took it off again about half an hour ago   Did a bit of massaging too, just about 10 mins, used some Arnica at first then bio oil.  Weird feeling at first plus the first time I've been able to feel my chest all over since before the Op, still really tender near the ribs and under the nipples.  Everywhere where they lipo'd basically.

I've read when you massage to hold your arm above your head, when you do this, you can really see where the scar tissue/swelling is forming.  But felt good even if I was grimacing a lot, I sharp got used to it and immediately afterwards I lifted some towels on to my top shelf without thinking, but didn't feel the tightness, must of loosened it up a touch. Will do another ten mins tonight before bed.

[wingman]

Great news Nipper! You're 9 days in front of me, following your story almost feels like I can predict what to expect in my coming days. Obviously our surgery differs in terms of technique, but I can certainly relate to most of what you are saying.

Keep it up bud!

[Nipper]

Slept without the vest last night but still woke up after 5 hours, seems I've conditioned myself of late, need to sort that out.  But, looked a bit better when I passed by full length mirrors I have on my landing on the way to the bathroom. 

When I say a bit better, I mean when I stopped to check.  Here's how I see it. On the whole, I'd take this chest full of orange peel scar tissue/swelling over those droopy breasts any day of the week!  I'd rather have a messed up masculine looking chest than a perfect feminine looking one.  So I am definitely not going to be troubled by a little unevenness and slight puffiness, no way. 

Though I have to say, it won't look pretty at times but it is in a serious state of flux, you have to remember that.  And it is dependent on us, how well we recover. So it's at a time like this that I have to remind myself how full of self loathing, regret and just plain sadness about it all that I used to feel or deny to myself.  And that is all I need to help lift any doubt that I have when I look in the mirror nowadays.   

Weird psychological change - Number 1

I used to check other blokes chests out all the time, don't say you lot haven't either   Ha, have to word this carefully now.  I was always trying to convince myself I fell somewhere in between as I observed that a lot of guys have varying degrees of gyne. 

But when I had gyne it was the envy I used to feel when I seen normal flat chested blokes.  Was at a footy match last night, tons and tons of dudes there...The only time I ever thought about it was when I seen guys with gyne, and felt for them...no more envy, didn't even look at anyone with that longing that I used to have to be "normal"  just proves how powerful it really all is in your mind.   So apart from the aesthetics, we are also getting massive boosts in confidence and I think, mental well being.   I'm happy as a pig in shit right now, you can't buy this kind of experience as you have first had to live for a long time, with such a hellish condition to appreciate the elation when it's gone.  Amen.

[darkstar]

It's an interesting one to think about how you look at someone who you know has gyno, now you're rid of it. There is a lad in my uni flat who I only met 3 weeks ago. He was going on about how out of shape he was, saying "I even have beer breasts", but he's a slim guy and I know 100% there is some gland there. But I don't think I will ever be able to tell him, as it's just not something I think is appropriate for another person to bring up.

[Nipper]

If he's calling them beer breasts then ignorance is bliss in his case I guess, when/if the penny drops with him, you'll be long gone I reckon mate.  And he will have his own path to tread.  If I overhear anyone voicing a concern, I'd impart my knowledge I think. But you're right, it's not really
the right thing to do, as I think you have to let this slowly dawn upon you for you to accept.  And even then, you still don't want to accept it, let alone be told from a total stranger.  If he can live with it, good for him. I couldn't.  

[Nipper]

Discharge letter just dropped through the letterbox from The Hospital, I have changed my mobile recently so maybe missed a call.  But anyway, here are the stats -

250 mls of fat in total was aspirated
9 g from the left  11 g from the right

Requested to have a follow up at six weeks on this letter.  As opposed to the four weeks that was written on my hand out???  Will make one for around five weeks then

[adamj]

The only time I ever thought about it was when I seen guys with gyne, and felt for them...no more envy, didn't even look at anyone with that longing that I used to have to be "normal"  just proves how powerful it really all is in your mind.   So apart from the aesthetics, we are also getting massive boosts in confidence and I think, mental well being.   I'm happy as a pig in shit right now, you can't buy this kind of experience as you have first had to live for a long time, with such a hellish condition to appreciate the elation when it's gone.  Amen.

Amen

It's an interesting one to think about how you look at someone who you know has gyno, now you're rid of it. There is a lad in my uni flat who I only met 3 weeks ago. He was going on about how out of shape he was, saying "I even have beer breasts", but he's a slim guy and I know 100% there is some gland there. But I don't think I will ever be able to tell him, as it's just not something I think is appropriate for another person to bring up.

He'll find out soon enough, but yeah I agree that it's really is something he has got to find out alone. If he wants to talk about it after that, then it's his choice. I feel for the guy.

[wingman]

I used to check other blokes chests out all the time, don't say you lot haven't either   Ha, have to word this carefully now.  I was always trying to convince myself I fell somewhere in between as I observed that a lot of guys have varying degrees of gyne. 

I would always compare also. It's human nature.

[sjwsjw]

I only found out that what i had was medical through embarrassing bodies program. Obv i was aware that i was different in respect to other people but for years i thought that i was just fat, i bulked up and cut over the space of 3-4 years and nothing have improved, i bought a compression top and thought i had to make do with how i was. It was only when i saw that it was medical i looked into it more and found out what i needed to do to be rid of it. I would never have gone to my GP and asked him it if was medical or not.

Hows its going anyway Nipper? You gunna basically be a month post when i go to the consultationm that time has flown by for me thanks to yours and others diarys on here

[Nipper]

It's going effing great sjw, I have been away at my lady friends all weekend.  Just enjoying life and keeping on top of my healing, had the vest off today for about 7 hours, I just bought a new motor yesterday so took it out along the coast for a few hrs, think that's what did it, chest raised up in a couple places and was more tingly than usual. 

I mean you can drive, just maybe not for the length I did.  Had another massage and slapped the vest back on when I returned.  Think I'm gonna leave it off in bed and use the support for day times.. Or try and keep it on 24/7 if poss.  But, loads of spots on my flanks and itching etc means I like having a spell with it off.  But was great to be out in the sun today, in my white...yes you heard right, WHITE tee shirt!!

[sjwsjw]

Nice! Just think about next summer mate, gunna feel pretty sweet

Yea i am looking forward to adding some colours to my wardobe lol