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hammer

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Absolutely correct Hammer. Because of my cup size being what it is, I cant usually find a bra that will work for me in most stores. Most places will only carry up to a DDD in a 36 or 38 band. I can only wish that I could lose enough weight to see a DDD cup.size again.

I get most of my bras from a couple of local boutiques that specialize in bras. They are both excellent. They know me by name.and always welcome me. They keep track of my measurements .They also have very nice bras in my size. The great service and selection comes at a price. I will usually spend around $100.00 a piece on my bras. However, my bras will also last 2-3 years.
That is exactly what is stopping me from getting new for awhile! I'm an (H) cup myself and I still have 1 bra that is working well and as I've said before I still go long periods without wearing them too,so I'm not going to spend hundreds of dollars just to have to donate them 2 months later!

aboywithgirls

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I hear that!  I hand wash and air dry my bras. I have found the value in buying nice bras and keeping them nice. That's the great thing about getting a good quality bra that is fitted for me and my breast size and shape. There are no guarantees when it comes to breast size. Gain weight or lose weight, growth spurt,  engorged milk ducts. There are so many things that change my breast size and shape. At my last mammogram,  I expressed milk during the imaging. It was a little embarrassing and the tech got some nursing pads to insert into my bra because I kept leaking. My doctor's solution was to either pump or let it just run its course. 

Sorry got 9ff track. 

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Hello I mostly wear the JMS brand cupped sports bra in a 4x but wallmart does not carry them here anymore , and as far as tops I usually get womans tank or crewneck tank tops the have more breast room and my wife thinks they look good , I wear them to work and no one has said a word . as far a jeans I get womans riders in size 18long they are plain pocket and look just like the mens , I have tried on mens in a 46 and the legs are like feed bags.So whatever works , works!

Popcanman

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I have Amazon Prime but haven't heard of wardrobe. I'll have to check it out. 

I did cave and called the Lane Bryant to ask about a fitting. The young woman who answered was very nice and didn't make it awkward at all. She told me that she normally has men come in. She also said that I deserve to have a bra that fits me well. 

So I went back and remeasured and came to the same results 46 D or 46 DD. It's hard for me to get my mind around this. I mean I remember junior high locker room banter hearing the guys talking about girl's D cup breasts. Now I have my own set. Surreal. Because I have wide shoulders I guess my breasts flew under the radar but to think that if I was a 36DD instead of a 46DD I would be a knockout is kind of crazy. 

I'm trying my best to accept my situation and be comfortable. In many ways this feels out of my control. My doctors have advised against gynecomastia surgery for other medical reasons and suggested not even considering any surgery for at least a year. I'm super curious what things will look like for me in a year. My wife and I have already made the decision for medical,  financial and personal reasons not to go forward with the surgery. I'm oddly relieved and feel some sense of control about having a decision in the matter. 

I am nervous about sudden growth and how that might impact me. I've had moments of fear and looking up remedies online to reduce the size but I don't know if I want to take any drastic steps. One direction I see is to use progesterone cream to reduce them but I don't know if I really want to go about it this way.  Plus I read conflicting advice with some people suggesting the cream might actually enhance estrogen receptors and induce milk gland growth. My heart skips a beat thinking about this. I know the expectation is that I should be appalled at this revelation but I'm more curious than fearful at this point. I do remember in junior high when I first experienced growth. I was extremely skinny then and playing sports and I remember that for a while my nipples leaked a little. Freaked me out and never told anyone. It was mainly just a clear liquid,  maybe a little cloudy. It went away and I haven't focused on it but now I wonder how developed my breasts actually are,  how developed they might get, whether leaking will return, what my wife might think and why I am having thoughts about being able to play this out. 

My wife is very supportive and has only expressed that it would be weird if I got as large as her.  I assure her that this is not the case as my 46D are a long ways off from her H cups. (at least 4 inches, right?) But still I don't know if things will remain steady or if I will close the gap. 

The doctors have yet to explain why I have breasts or whether they can do anything about it. The last doctor explained that people are on a continuum when it comes to things like breasts, estrogen and testosterone. I don't know if this is comforting or not. 

Anyone here ever get tested for things like Sex Hormone Binding Globulin or the like? Anyone here have Gynecomastia related to Gilbert's Syndrome or UGT1A1 enzyme? 

Does anyone here deal with more than just breast growth. I mean does whatever causes the breast development cause feminine things elsewhere? I've recently experienced some body hair loss and maybe some muscle mass loss but don't want to alarm myself.



 



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Yes, in addition to developing female breasts, my fat deposits are now where women get them, hips, tummy, rear end. And I have lost muscle, especially in the shoulders and arms.

 Bra shopping recently, the sales associate commented  remember when you were only a C or D cup?   In the same breath, she said let me show you some shapewear that should work really well for you, also.

Popcanman

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Thanks for sharing Sideset. Sorry to be so intrusive and curious. I just kind of am trying to figure out where this could go but not freak out. I'm trying to understand what a realistic range is for gynecomastia. Neither me nor my wife really knows and the doctors have no answers,  only that they advise waiting at least a year if I was considering surgery. I really don't want surgery but just want to understand what my top side will be. 

I'm also trying to get healthy and lose weight but have made the conscious decision to not try to lose weight just so I shrink breasts by extreme dieting or exercise. If I were trying to please everyone else I would cave to peer pressure and have to finance a "cosmetic" surgery. But if I take away everyone elses' expectations things seem different. 

1st I want to be healthy and active. Still I'm curious what other people's results with exercise have been. For me losing 25 or more pounds has resulted in slimmer stomach and waist but my chest has not went down at all and it feels like it actually may have swelled. Just from memory and measurements I can track that from my sides and front I look more feminine, more round and not just fat deposits since I'm actually losing weight. While this may have been a juvenile curiosity and fantasy it's certainly more complicated as a working and married adult. 

Earlier I flippantly mentioned that I am a 46 D/DD to my recent surprise and that if I were a 36D/DD I would be a knockout. And it got me insecurely looking up some size charts again. So most charts list DD as being solidly about 5 inch (max 7 inch) difference in underbust to bust. So that imaginary 36DD person would in theory have a bust of 41 to 43 inches. Since I have a 46 inch underbust... (46x41/36)-50 = 1.4 inches and (46x43/36)-50= 3.9 inches. So basically I'm 1.4 to 3.9 inches in circumference from being proportional to the stacked 36DD. Talk about some mixed feelings. 

I feel like I'm still pretty young to be dealing with gynecomastia. I'm neither a teenager nor an old man and so I don't know if this is a blip on the radar or if this is tracking somewhere. 

To be honest this is only day 3 for me in wearing a bra all day and most of the time I don't notice it other than it's comfortable. I'm afraid that I'm going to forget I'm wearing one and take my shirt off forgetting about it.

Anyone here have results (slimming or growth) with progesterone cream?

Any diet changes impact slimming or growth? 


Popcanman

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So Sideset and anyone else. Have any of you experienced odd losses or gains in fat with exercise. I have only been walking with no weight training or extreme workouts. All the pants I bought within the last 3 months are falling off of me. I've actually had to punch two new holes in my belt. Yet at the same time boxers are not getting looser. If anything I feel that it looks like I've been working my butt muscles out but I have not. This seems contradictory to me. 

Popcanman

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Has anyone here gotten consultation or advise about ct scan of gynecomastia? 

No one has been able to fully explain my results or if there is a rating system or how this compares to normal development.

Basically my scans show solid dense mass extending 2.25 inches vertically, 5.1 inches wide,  and solidly 2.5 inches deep. The midline scan looks like a small apple or orange. 


How typical is this for gynecomastia? For normal female breasts? 

Offline Johndoe1

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First. Progesterone will increase size. It's the major component in breast growth. 

Just remember the letter/number scheme used in bra sizing is a ratio of band length to cup size and not tissue size. Part of the problem is, bras, like shoes are determined by society and not by actual dimensions. Women never want to think they have big feet or big breasts because society has a set number for these things. That is one reason 80% of women wear the wrong size bra and many the wrong size shoe. They can't possibly be 32F when they have been wearing a 36B bra, that they complain about never fitting correctly. It's just a number and letter. What you want is something that works for your body and is comfortable to wear all day and into the night. 
Womanhood is not defined by breasts, and breasts are not indicative of womanhood. - Melissa Fabello

Popcanman

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Doesn't tissue size and density contribute to female like breasts? 

I'm a bit confused. I know the doctors confirmed that I have a lot of tissue and made it clear that this is not psuedo gynecomastia which I assume is more about fat deposits and obesity than the combination of tissue and fat together. 

I guess I'm just trying to understand myself and my situation but I am having difficulty in finding benchmarks since it is a very personal topic and everyone is different and I have never talked to anyone about my questions before. 

For my own peace of mind I'm trying to understand to get a bead on what typical tissue size is for males with gynecomastia or women. Best I found was a study of "general public" men. It defined Gynecomastia as anything over 20mm and concluded that men with 36mm (1.42 inch) tissue mass or larger were in the 97.5th percentile. I don't know what that means for me as my CT scan shows a range of 51mm vertical to 63 mm deep to 127 mm horizontal.




Popcanman

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I checked another online calculator and the numbers show at a 46.5 inch underbust (which I have) and a 52.5/53 inch bust (I currently have 50.5 inch). This would be a 46F. This is proportionate to a 36D/DD.Talk about some mixed feelings. 

How likely is it for someone in their 30s to gain another 2 to 2.5 inches? Am being overly cautious? I just think that this would be too much for my wife. I'm just hoping to understand worst and best case scenarios.


hammer

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I have Amazon Prime but haven't heard of wardrobe. I'll have to check it out.

I did cave and called the Lane Bryant to ask about a fitting. The young woman who answered was very nice and didn't make it awkward at all. She told me that she normally has men come in. She also said that I deserve to have a bra that fits me well.

So I went back and remeasured and came to the same results 46 D or 46 DD. It's hard for me to get my mind around this. I mean I remember junior high locker room banter hearing the guys talking about girl's D cup breasts. Now I have my own set. Surreal. Because I have wide shoulders I guess my breasts flew under the radar but to think that if I was a 36DD instead of a 46DD I would be a knockout is kind of crazy.

I'm trying my best to accept my situation and be comfortable. In many ways this feels out of my control. My doctors have advised against gynecomastia surgery for other medical reasons and suggested not even considering any surgery for at least a year. I'm super curious what things will look like for me in a year. My wife and I have already made the decision for medical,  financial and personal reasons not to go forward with the surgery. I'm oddly relieved and feel some sense of control about having a decision in the matter.

I am nervous about sudden growth and how that might impact me. I've had moments of fear and looking up remedies online to reduce the size but I don't know if I want to take any drastic steps. One direction I see is to use progesterone cream to reduce them but I don't know if I really want to go about it this way.  Plus I read conflicting advice with some people suggesting the cream might actually enhance estrogen receptors and induce milk gland growth. My heart skips a beat thinking about this. I know the expectation is that I should be appalled at this revelation but I'm more curious than fearful at this point. I do remember in junior high when I first experienced growth. I was extremely skinny then and playing sports and I remember that for a while my nipples leaked a little. Freaked me out and never told anyone. It was mainly just a clear liquid,  maybe a little cloudy. It went away and I haven't focused on it but now I wonder how developed my breasts actually are,  how developed they might get, whether leaking will return, what my wife might think and why I am having thoughts about being able to play this out.

My wife is very supportive and has only expressed that it would be weird if I got as large as her.  I assure her that this is not the case as my 46D are a long ways off from her H cups. (at least 4 inches, right?) But still I don't know if things will remain steady or if I will close the gap.

The doctors have yet to explain why I have breasts or whether they can do anything about it. The last doctor explained that people are on a continuum when it comes to things like breasts, estrogen and testosterone. I don't know if this is comforting or not.

Anyone here ever get tested for things like Sex Hormone Binding Globulin or the like? Anyone here have Gynecomastia related to Gilbert's Syndrome or UGT1A1 enzyme?

Does anyone here deal with more than just breast growth. I mean does whatever causes the breast development cause feminine things elsewhere? I've recently experienced some body hair loss and maybe some muscle mass loss but don't want to alarm myself.



 
I lost all my chest, back and arm pit hair! My bra size the last fitting I had was 46H, but I have lost 45 pounds or so since then and still on the losing track so I'll wait to go for another fitting.

The reason why I have such large breas! I had gyno in my teens, but I lost my testicles after a vasectomy in my early thirties and after that they grew like well watered weeds! I experience lactation  as well as different sensations during growth spurts!

I wish you all the best during this time of questions,  and as I've said before  it's great that your wife is supportive!

Bob
« Last Edit: August 12, 2019, 06:30:27 PM by hammer »

aboywithgirls

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My girls showed up at puberty. It was most likely because of some degree of being intersexed. I'm a 36G/H to a 38G/H depending on the bra. Most of.the women in my family have a generous pair of breasts.

I had an embarrassing episode of lactation at my last mammogram. I expressed milk during the imaging. I tried pumping it down for the first few days but it just came back each time. I ended up using nursing pads for about 6 weeks until it finally started going down. It was most likely because of my age causing hormones to go wacky. My endocrinologist didn't have any actual answer just that women can spontaneously lactate during menopause.  Given my age, it made sense. 

I also have feminine hips and bottom. Women's jeans and slacks and underwear fit much better than anything that I can get from a men's store.

A good supporting bra has been my best way of dealing with my boobs. As far as my lower half, and top half for outerwear,  women's clothing is just a better fit. There are lots of options that you can find that don't draw attention. Both Torrid and Lane Bryant are great places for men like us to shop for clothing to fit our unique shape. They have both been great to deal with. 
« Last Edit: August 13, 2019, 12:18:44 PM by aboywithgirls »

p.r.1974

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Still getting used to the whole posting thing.

I discovered mom's underwear drawer at 7, and their is a picture somewhere of me in her hose. The girls started before little league. I have always been a big guy. I grew very quickly to 6'2 and 200lb with a b cup by the 7th grade, along with all of the usual puberty issues. The gender and sexual identity issues have gone back and forth pretty much my entire life, along with the clothing purges.

I fluctuated from an a to a b cup without continued support until about my mid thirties when I hit another growth spurt, only this time it was my chest instead of my height. So, to avoid the back pain and heat rash that comes from not supporting my girls, I have been wearing daily support since then. Through a 10 year process of hit and primarily miss I found that 46c that hits all of the fit indicators works for most of the US retailers, but still need to go get a fitting after we see what the new meds and exercise do. Having found "my size", I splurged and may have gone a bit overboard....one can never have enough bras or tools...

I am still working on the personal acceptance side of everything. I am cautious about outing myself in the outside world, no matter the closet that I am still unsure of. I have spent most of my life focused on work, and adding to that mental toolbox, and neglected working on me. That is changing with personal growth, and with sites like this. I appreciate the insights and experiences that have impacted me from this and previous threads. Thank you, I will do my best to pay it forward! 

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I am still working on the personal acceptance side of everything. I am cautious about outing myself in the outside world, no matter the closet that I am still unsure of. I have spent most of my life focused on work, and adding to that mental toolbox, and neglected working on me. That is changing with personal growth, and with sites like this. I appreciate the insights and experiences that have impacted me from this and previous threads. Thank you, I will do my best to pay it forward!
"Coming out" is always a personal choice, but I think the vast majority of us are "not out" when it comes to our chests. In my own case, only a handful of people know, literally less than 10 people, and they are amazing all women and are either medical personnel or very close friends whom I trust completely and all but one have been very supportive and the ladies in the shop where I buy my bras. I have no desire to "come out", per se. And like women's boobs, my boobs are no one's business by mine own. If someone notices, that is one thing, but me going around telling or showing off, nah. Society may be accepting of trans people, they are not accepting of men with gynecomastia. I don't need that headache.


 

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