Author Topic: 28 years old with no life, all thanks to gyno  (Read 34892 times)

Offline Vanatu

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Wow, ruinedlife i can relate to almost EVERYTHING you write.

Offline Gynohider

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The most amusing inconsistency I think I've ever seen on the internet: someone with actual BDD (mrfantastic) who got surgery even though there are no traces of gyne present in his pics accuses others who actually have the condition of being chemically imbalanced.

The sad part is that if most of us on this board looked like mrfantastic from the beginning, we would not even be here to have this discussion.

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Ruinedlife, I can also relate to your story almost as if it were my own. As you can see from my screen name, I've also become an expert at hiding my condition.  :)

Have you ever worn two tight cotton tank tops under a t-shirt? Works like a charm.  ;)

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ruinedlife, I was shaking my head as I read your last post, you might have well have written my life. Didn't have a job, couldn't take shirt off , the frustration, guiding the hand around the chest.... the whole deal.  I even made a corset-contraption to keep my chest flat.  God it hurt.  And smelled after a few wearings (I won't tell you how long I wore that).  Gyne can literally ruin a life.  Literally.

Talk to your folks.  Listen to the advice of the experienced people here about chosing a surgeon.  Maybe even get one of your fellow Canadians here to refer you to one.  Stick around and tell us how you are getting on.

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« Last Edit: January 07, 2006, 01:16:47 PM by kev »
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breast tissue was removed from my chest.  It wasn't comfortable to me, having it be there.

the surgeon wouldn't of operated on me if there was nothing to remove.

maybe my case was minor to you guys, but nonetheless it's still a case that i felt was worth taking care of.

i come from an affluent family, and the surgery was not a burdon to me.  It was something that made me happier/more satisfied with.  I didn't like the fact that there was a little gland in my pecs and i had it removed.  I don't see a difference between large amounts of gland, or small amounts of gland.. The condition is still a condition.  I'm sorry if i'm sounding rude/insensitive.   All i was simple saying is that gyno is nothing special.  IT is no different than any other cosmetic condition which people seek out surgery for.  Women get breast implants who have no breasts.  MAles who have breasts get them removed.  Who here can say they know what it feels like for a woman to have no breasts?? what gives u the right to say any other person isn't suffering just as much as you guys because of something completely unrelated that is an aesthetic condition???

to once again restate my point.  Gyno is a aesthetic condition.  It is the same thing as any other aesthetic condition that is so displeasing to the person that they opt to get surgery for it.  What makes people sick is having your life be ruined by it, and seriously wanting to commit suicide over it.  

PArt of gyno treatment is also counceling after surgery.  Some people dont need this.  All i'm saying is this individual DOES NEED IT VERY BADLY.  


And please, no one here has again tried to disprove me on my theory that gyno is no different than again any other aesthetic condition that people obsess over and feel that they need surgery to correct.

again please ??

i dont have bdd.  i know my case was mild.   I didn't obsess over surgery.  I didn't rush into anything.  I purposefully waited till winter, waited till i was done growing, and i think i made the right decision.  


anyway, don't mean to be harsh or anything.  I feel bad for ruinedlife.. But again, he needs to realize that his whole problem is simple cosmetic.  He isn't going to die from gyno.  He needs to realize how simple the actual physical problem of the gyno can be solved.  It's not that tuff to gather up 5 grand.. with loans , whatnot available.

his much big problem is getting over psychologically whatever he expierienced from his gyno with the teasing/frustration.  He needs to think about why in the world teasing/gyno ruined his life???  Don't tell me life is just about wearing tight t-shirts and not getting made fun of because of something dumb like boobs.  HE isn't a freak... tons of people have man boobs.  IF he believes he is a freak, then again i'm right and he has BDD.  And again, from his rhetoric here i do believe he thinks he is a freak, and thus has bdd.

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It's funny how you continue to refer to me in the 3rd person instead of speaking to me directly.  I'm right here, pal.

You've read my story, you've read the replies from other people who have lived through the exact same thing.  You don't know jack, kid.  You didn't have breasts, you had barely puffy nips.  You suffer from BDD and you're projecting your own inadequacies on me and everyone else in a similar situation.  You never experienced what I experienced and you've never lived with real breasts.  I won't repeat myself again, read what I already posted.  I laid my entire story out for all to see.  Hell, it's painfully obvious that you haven't even read my latest posts (or choose to ignore them.. god forbid they stifle your ability to attack me in any way).  All you care about is 'fighting back' and 'winning'.

You're a cruel, uncaring human being who cares more about winning his argument than about the feelings of other people.  You belittle people and what they've been through.  You're a cold, cold fish, buddy.  I fear for your future much, much more than I do for my own.
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And please, no one here has again tried to disprove me on my theory that gyno is no different than again any other aesthetic condition that people obsess over and feel that they need surgery to correct.

again please ??




I'll take you up on your challenge.

Please bear with me as this will take some time.

Gynecomastia if significant (you had very little to none) is different to other cosmetic conditions in that;

If someone is asked who they are on a television program or in an interview etc they  
invariably go along a series of events.

They state their name, "hi I'm Chris", their job "I am an "accountant", then their family situation, “I am married to Karen and I have three kids John, Gemma and Sally”.

Sometimes people state their family details before that of their job details.

However there is something more intimate, more personal as to who they/we are than all of that, it comes top of hierarchy when it comes to who we are.

And it is this;

Our gender.


Now 90% of the time it goes unsaid, people do not have to state there gender because it is obvious.

One of the very few things that can for many men bring this into question is gynecomastia, because breasts are a VERY female attribute (I am talking breasts here MRfantastic- not miniscule tissue).

Having moderate to significant breasts can make a man question his very worth, can make him question how much of a man he really is.

It can have that severity in terms of its psychological impact.

You spoke about women having small breasts- but that in of itself is not remotely a male characteristic, it just isn't.

The nearest a woman can come to this condition would be to have a beard or moustache- significantly.

Try and find me a women with significant moustache or beard growth who is  not significantly psychologically affected, a woman who has had her gender brought into question by such a condition.

You see these women suffer in a similar way.



Given this condition relates to gender and the deepest and most intimate questions of psychology, gynecomastia has an aspect that many/most other cosmetic problems do not have.

But you cannot relate to this because you have never had it and will never understand, you can only relate to the world through your experiences which are obviously though of BDD.

You talk of those never getting over having gynecomastia irrespective of surgery.

But I never had a problem with my body, even when I had gynecomastia until it got very bad at 28.  So most of my life I had no problem.  Physically it got very bad so I had a problem.  Now it is removed and again I have no problem at all.

So you’re talking complete crap.

In another post you spoke about gynecomastia was all about people fitting into tighter shirts.  

NO IT ISN'T!!!!!

You’re projecting your feelings onto others yet again!!!.

MY Gynecomastia was so bad I could Never wear a massive loose T-shirt, even if I was in great shape!!!!

I couldn't even wear most shirts.

Mostly the only thing that covered my gynecomastia- which effectively was a set a full on breasts- was a coat!!!

Now please don't EVER try and relate yourself to me or people like me in terms of the gynecomastia because it is a sick joke!!!

Answer my challenge if you want but in all honesty, given you will just flounder;

I hope you don't and instead put some of that family money to good by getting you the help you need to resolve your psychological issues.

P.S

In over two years of seeing photographs of gynecomastia on this website not once have I EVER seen a more obvious case of a normal chest pre op than yours.  I would go as far to say you never even REMOTELY had gynecomastia.








« Last Edit: January 07, 2006, 04:07:26 PM by Hypo-is-here »

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Nothing to do with anything but;

What is with the deal with wearing pants much lower than the hips?

And why do you feel that you are in great shape when malnurished?

Which is basically shown in that photo and your other before op photo?

Looking like a greyhound and being human is not good, your impression of what looks correct is way off base and you need a therapist as previously mentioned :-/

And that is harsh but, jeez no more harsh than what has been said prior.

But if you don't want to speak about these things or think bugger it fair enough because I feel uncomfortable looking for answers.







« Last Edit: January 07, 2006, 04:22:34 PM by Hypo-is-here »


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Similar to mine- bigger to be honest (and I had 3 hours surgery recently).

Significant gynecomastia that can only be hidden by a large coat.

I feel for you big time, especially given how long you have had this for.

I sent you a PM.

You need proper support and you will get it despite the problems of this thread- you will get help here.










« Last Edit: January 07, 2006, 04:45:25 PM by Hypo-is-here »

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Alright, here we go...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d30/ruinedlife/mychest1.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d30/ruinedlife/mychest-2.jpg

There they are, enjoy.


Not nearly as bad as I thought it'd be given what you have written about it. According to your pictures (which are a little vague), it still looks like you could shed quite a bit of poundage and make them a lot less noticeable. My case looked similar to yours before I lost 15 lbs, and after losing those pounds I decided surgery wasn't necessary.

I recommend for you to at least lose some weight before considering or having surgery done.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2006, 05:05:53 PM by como »

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Alright guys, I'm done here.

I'm 165 @ 5'11 (was 240lbs).  I was as low as 150lbs but I didn't take any pictures of my breasts when I was no carbing it and running every day (in a coat), sorry.  That is not sustainable for me (and would take me weeks to get back to that position to post new pics here to prove it to some of you) and most importantly, *DIDN'T HELP*, I'm sorry.  This weight is where i naturally hover (I never pig out and I eat 6 small meals a day, high protein, moderate low glycemic carbs, around 1900 calories a day) when I work out 4 days a week and don't go crazy.   I've been trying to get rid of them for 5 fn years by working out and dieting hard.   I think I've spent enough time on that by now.

This is just something I have to do on my own.  I have my start, now. My opinions on my personal life experience simply aren't valid to a lot of people on these boards.

I'm not going to debate whether or not my problem is real or whether it's "really that bad".  That's ridiculous.  It seems to always come down to whether or not someone else has experienced the same things in their life.  If they haven't, they don't understand and they start accusing you of having mental problems and telling you it's not that bad.

I hope anyone else in my position doesn't face this kind of bulls*it when they come here looking for help.

Thanks,

- ruined.

P.S.  One thing I had forgotten about.. 5 years or so ago, I was hanging around a really nasty woman for around a year who would grab my breasts all the time and thought it was the most hilarious thing in the world.  She was 22 years old.  She figured it out by looking up my shirt.

P.P.S  To clarify, I've had to "prove" myself way too much on this thread and I now feel that no matter what photos I take (I was considering taking pictures of me in tshirts, dress shirts, sitting down, leaning over, the whole deal) or how much I explain, there are those who just don't think it's that bad.  That hurts.  When I'm told that what I experienced wasn't that bad, it hurts, a lot.  You didn't live my life.  Do I have to go into exquisite detail?  Do you even realize what you're saying?   You're belittling everyone who's been through this hell.

P.P.P.S.  They sag, really low.  If I bend over, they sag at least 4 inches.  If you would like to make love to a girl with breasts sagging on her face, you go right ahead.

Anyways, thank you to everyone for your really helpful suggestions.  I can't wait any longer.   Surgical removal of these demons is the key to my quality of life.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2006, 06:00:04 PM by ruinedlifenew »

Offline Grandpa Bambu

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Wow, ruinedlife i can relate to almost EVERYTHING you write.

Ditto!  ;)

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Alright, here we go...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d30/ruinedlife/mychest1.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d30/ruinedlife/mychest-2.jpg

There they are, enjoy.

Dude.....

The pics are no longer at that URL. Could you post again please.....

TIA

John.

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Hi John,

I removed them.  I would put them back up but I just feel now that I shouldn't have to "prove" anything to anyone.  I can e-mail them to you if you wish.  

Hypo saw them, he can attest to the fact they are even bigger than his were (and his f'd over his entire life).

I just don't need to hear how they're not quite big enough to warrant my reaction.  Como, I know you didn't mean any harm in your reply, but it gave me a glimpse of what might come.  At this point, I just want to move on with getting up the courage to talk to a doctor and my family about this nightmare.  There are huge, long, hard masses beneath both nipples (the right one has always been painful to touch; I can't lay flat on my stomach because of it), surrounded by a massive amount of softer lumps (fat, I assume).  

At 165lbs @ 5'11, I shouldn't have large, sagging breasts like this, sorry.  That is a decent weight for my height.   As I said, I've been as low as 150lbs (no carbing + weights + running every day) and they were still there; I'm sorry I didn't take pics of my breasts at the time.

Anyways, I laid my entire life out for all to see.  I held back nothing.  I hope my story can help others feel less alone in this struggle; it was really hard to expose my life that like that (but absolutely worth it).
« Last Edit: January 08, 2006, 12:56:17 AM by ruinedlifenew »


 

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